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to: MAURICE KINAL
from: NICHOLAS BOEL
date: 2015-01-04 18:32:00
subject: Re: 2 problems on my Gent

Hello Maurice,

On 04 Jan 15 19:08, Maurice Kinal wrote to Nicholas Boel:

 NB>> GoldEd has the same features as MsgEd, and then some.

 MK> It's the 'and then some' that I have issues with.  Definetly far too
 MK> much DOS-think methinks.  msged is more Unix-think other the FTN
 MK> corruption aside.  ;-)

That's what they were both originally created for. You don't have to like them,
but FTN was the developers of BOTH softwares' only intent.

 NB>> GoldEd also has better character translation support than MsgEd,
 NB>> even though both are lacking.

 MK> Too much DOS-think on both regards given the questionable
 MK> compatibility of those translations.  Even if they are indeed correct
 MK> as to real world 8-bit character codepages it is still not universal
 MK> and NEVER will be.  Speaking for myself I would NEVER restrict any
 MK> application running on any box I have say over to such obviously
 MK> crippleware.

You may have moved on from DOS, but as you've been able to see over the years,
you're outnumbered a couple thousand to one in the realm of FTN. People still
use what they are comfortable using in regards to this hobby. There's still BBS
softwares from the 80s and early 90s being used - because that's what people
want to run. *shrug*

 NB>> GoldEd can translate 256 characters while MsgEd can only do 128,

 MK> More reason to favour msged.  It's the extra 128 characters that are
 MK> causing all the grief and have since they were first adopted in text
 MK> messaging way back when.  utf-8 is definetly the way to go if and when
 MK> any characters beyond the 7-bit characters are required.  Also I
 MK> believe if native linux support is a goal then msged has the best shot
 MK> at a proper linux port.  It just needs to ditch those key maps and
 MK> trust the linux box to take care of that aspect.  No?

Your opinion. And you know what opinions are like, don't you? :)

Regards,
Nick

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