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In article ,
"Turin"
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> Debwhorah Terrerson wrote:
>> Turin wrote:
>> > Deborah Terreson wrote:
>> > > ----------
>> > > In article
, _TR_
>> > >  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Terreson wrote:
>> > > >>_TR_  wrote:
>> > > >>> Deborah Terreson wrote:
>> > > >>> _TR_  wrote:
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> bluesmama wrote:
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Deborah, you are absolutely
right, and I apologize.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Remember what I wrote about your
addiction to hyperbole?
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> HEY!!
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> This is MY apology - she can make it as
long as she wants
> to!
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>> You are correct.  The apology was to you,
and I don't pretend
> to
>> > speak on
>> > > >>> your behalf.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> I dispute the "apolgoy" for two
reasons, as I stated to Jayne
> K:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> 1)  She apologised only when a woman called
her to task.  I
> am,
>> > however,
>> > > >>> suprised that she acknowledges you as a woman.  She
> overlooked
>> > the standard
>> > > >>> feminist tactic of accusing you to be a man
simply because
> you
>> > challenged
>> > > >>> her cowshit.  Whether she overlooked the
tactic intentionally
> or
>> > > >>> accidentally is arguable.  You're quite
familiar with being
> the
>> > target of
>> > > >>> the tactic, aren't you, Ms. Terreson?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> If Parg wants to think I've got balls, who am I
to dissuade
> her?
>> > Her Big
>> > > >> Beef with me, is that I have NEVER denied my
feminist roots,
>> > > >
>> > > > Of course you don't need the likes of me to tell you that
> you're
>> > entitled
>> > > > to call yourself a feminist, Formosan or friendly
& forlorn,
> but
>> > you are so
>> > > > entitled.  My problem is that I cannot for the life of me
> figure
>> > out why a
>> > > > self-respecting woman such as you would adopt a monicker that
> has
>> > come to
>> > > > be the Mark of Cain for victimist fools.
>> > >
>> > > I grew up in a feminist environment, it was perhaps a blessing to
> me
>> > > personally, that the women around me were all strong and DIDN'T
> need
>> > to
>> > > villify men to get ahead. An anomaly? Probably, but a testimonial
> to
>> > the
>> > > truth that miracles can happen. I like to be the fly in their
>> > sanctimonious
>> > > victimology ointment. It pisses me off that it has gone to the
> level
>> > of
>> > > depravity it has, precisely because so many women have walked
> away
>> > from
>> > > calling out the man-bashing tendencies in these womyn. How is it
> that
>> > these
>> > > emotional cripples get to be the only voice of feminism? Fuck
> them!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah yeah.  Debwhorah is your run of the mill feminist.  Her
> definition
>> > of good feminism is the standard:
>>
>> Me? Who posted her naked
>
>
> Some skanky attention whore who was bragging that she would post a lot
> more than what she actually did:
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.men/msg/a0d09182f86ce4a5

I believe YOU originally posted this remark..

"No tits, big ass, and a pussy that even a cactus couldn't grow in."

What are the FIRST TWO WORDS in that sentence, my sweet?

As to the picture on the main foodandart page, you will notice that it is
titled "Sarah - 1999" - and it is NOT me. It was an image I particularly
like - you have pictures of people not you on your site as well, so you've
got no leg to stand on in criticizing me here.
>
>
>> bouncing
>
>
> I didn't see any bouncing.  Try making a gif next time.

Just might try out the Adobe Image Ready. Am trying to make a bouncing penis
in a jockstrap .gif..

If I get that squared away, I'll try manipulating my tit pic. Perhaps I can
have the nipple spin around?
>
>
>> big tits
>
>
> hahaha  ...that B&W angle shot of your floppers must've taken you hours
> and days to get just the way you wanted.

It took the photographer just a minute to set the light source.
>
> I wonder if it's the same one you told me to hunt down from somebody
> else.

Yup.

> If not, then that means it took you six months to get everything
> covered just right before coming back onto soc.men to coyly announce
> that it was ready.
>
Sorry to disappoint, it's the same picture - and other than removing a mark
from where a bottle was set on it and caused a discoloration, it hasn't been
touched up.
>
>> out here? *LOL*
>
>
> That is a lol..........
>
>
>> Not hardly!
>
>
> Now, Guys.  Notice how Butch Face diverted the subject.
>
> We were talking about masculine women - like her - who have the nerve
> to point out alleged effeminacies in Men.

Effeminacies in men?
>
> She simply started talking about her tits.

No. You called me a 'run of the mill' feminist.

One of those would NOT have the balls to post her tits, would they?

Oh no, can't do that, I'd be expressing some 'victimization' or some such
rot.

You don't even know what you are shooting at, you just like to blow.
>
>
> Then, she ducks her "strong women" crap for the rest of her post with
> just a lot of, "I was kidding" "..but not really",
faux pas stances and
> dodges.

What? You are so lame.
>
>
> This is completely analogous to the woman who gets herself in trouble
> at work (or in other situations) and then switches tactics.
>
> One moment she's the "strong woman" - the assertive woman - who is
> engaging in funtime psychological sexist whippings of the Men around
> her by stereotyping them in roles she knows they're not allowed to live
> up to.  Some guy calls her on it.

Who? You? You haven't 'called' me anything but flatchested. WHICH I proved
wrong.
>
> Then next, she momentarily submerges her masculine personality to
> project sexist femininity.

I thought I was sticking my tits out, to prove to you that I had big
enormous funbags.

I noticed that YOU certainly got quiet after I did.

> This is called passive-aggressive.  In order for this tactic to work
> for moderates, they have to be able to insist that their opponent be
> one dimensional; otherwise, the same game can be played on them, and
> they lose the advantage.  That's why you get dyke looking - and acting
> - hypocritical feminists like Deborah constantly bitching about whether
> some Man is gay.

*LOL* The leather jacket is a 'dyke' accoutrement? What man am I bitching
about? You are so good at hustling up the google links, so find one to back
this assertion on your part, please.
>
> The hypocrites are pointing fingers at everyone else for not being
> hypocrites.

The only one here is you, my sweet.
>
>> > She can cross the old gender lines all that she likes, and play in
> the
>> > so-called man's world using man's behaviors.  (Note how ladylike
> she
>> > always is).
>>
>> I have always been ladylike to those who are gentlemanly.
>
>
> That isn't how it works, Budweiser slut.

HAR! And me teetotalling for the last five weeks!
>
>
>> I even have taken
>> more than a few flame attack from angry men, and STILL was ladylike,
> and
>> listened *without* any prejudices and NOT criticized.
>
>
> Debwhorah, your idea of being ladylike is to press one finger to a
> nostril before shooting a snot out of the other onto the sidewalk.

Snot rockets! Naah, I can't do anything that is likely to make my ears pop.
>
>
>> For you however, anything goes.
>
>
> Yeah yeah, sleaze.  "Anything goes" is your personality.  You're just
> simply used to pussywhipped guys who don't think they are.

Dude, you've got the whipmarks all over you! Worst part is you're the one
engaging in the self-flagellation. That's why you are so intemperate.
>
>
>> > But men had better not do one thing which could be construed as
>> > effeminate by the old sexist standards, or else her type is going
> to
>> > bash them for it.
>>
>> Excuse me?
>>
>> You know Turin, if you spent half as much time time [sic -Turin]
>> *reading* what I write,
>> instead of jumping into nearly dead threads,
>
>
> "nearly" "dead threads" ...you gotta love that.

I thought it had run out of comment to the original posters. Trust you to
put the puff of life back into it.
>
>
>> reading one or two paragraphs
>> and spouting off like the blowhard you pass yourself off as, you
> might
>> actually get it right.
>
>
> You know, Debwhorah, maybe if you weren't an ass-kissing contemptible
> piece of subversive feminist shit - like your fellow plastic liberal,
> Tom - then you wouldn't be bragging one year about how much money
> you're making through your corporate-felching little union, hightailing
> it another to Canada because of an election, and using pathetic
> diversion after pathetic diversion to fit in where no one agrees with
> you.

Well, I DO have a good job, I won't deny it. You know what? I even WORKED
for it, physically toiled very hard. At least it's not a job in an office
for some corporation - I'll leave the felching to you, since you seem to not
be willing to do anything other than RANT when someone steps up and starts
to walk the walk.
>
> But, if you like that, then keep posting pictures of your tits.  I'm
> sure there's a few guys around from the I'll-Fuck-Anything Club who
> won't let a little thing like Ideas keep them from getting ripped off
> tomorrow by your kind.  ...If Phil's not busy drooling to American
> Beauty on DVD tonight, then send him a few.

You always seem to end up choking when you post these slags at me. This last
retort about my tit pics seems a bit sour grapes and a tad redundant here...
>
>
>> > It's precisely that celtic trash "strong women"
rationalizing where
> the
>> > double standard rests.  Men are limited through stereotyping, but
> not
>> > them.
>>
>> *LOL* And you're not a stereotype yourself, right? Come ON dude!
> Let's play
>> the Angry Internet Blowhard, shall we? Call it what you will, at the
> end of
>> the day, my personality when I'm not online is exactly the same as
> what is
>> out here. NO bullshit.
>
>
> I guess, for you, that's a major accomplishment.

Just mustering the interest to reply to your missives is the accomplishment.
You DO keep me so entertained, though.
>
> Do you think you're pulling the wool over anyone's eyes that you don't
> walk in here and do your own blowhard act - with all of your phony
> overdone profanity?

Ooooo, the four letter words scare you? Odd how you start with the
playground bully routine but can't keep it up.

Let me guess, now that you've discovered the bible has alot of good cant for
you to dig into the corporate greed/materialist/feminine-oriented types of
the world with, you're going to get all holy?
>
> Your biggest fear is putting on a yellow dress and having people look
> at you like you don't do a thing for the yellow dress.

My love, I don't do anything for ANY dress. My work has given me a shape..
well.. let's just say it's not overly female contoured, in spite of the
decolletage I have.
>
>
> But, put on some men's clothes, and many plain looking broads can have
> whatever femininity they possess accentuated, so that guys will instead
> notice the female attributes showing through where there aren't
> supposed to be any.   Then, they look and say: "She's not
bad".  "I'd
> fuck her".
>
> Likewise, with your sailor personality.  I can deal with Tom Boys, who
> need their crutches for not being pretty or delicate, but they cross
> the line when they start stereotyping Men into corners of conduct,
> dress code, and all the rest of that blackmailing shit.

Blackmail?
>
> And, as far as this "stereotyping back to you" garbage goes ...you're
> just lifting that out of the posts of another loser who brought it on
> himself, because that's all the geek does when he argues.

Ummmm, no. I really, *really* don't read much out here, it's been pretty
much the same for the last 4 years, so I just dip into threads here and
there.. If similar arguments or observations are coming up in different
threads, perhaps it is that they are of merit, if more then one person is
seeing the same thing.
>
> Pointing out stereotyping isn't the same thing as stereotyping itself,
> but it is true that those who stereotype usually do so simply because
> they themselves choose to live according to stereotypes.  They want the
> safety of conformity.  So, it's only pointing out the truth if you do
> stereotype them.  If people are going to hide behind cookie cutter
> arguments, then they deserve it.

And I am pointing out that you are conforming as well. There seems to be
nothing logical behind the thoughts - which is the hallmark of the Blowhard
- as you have often gotten your attempts to define and delineate me - right
down to my physical attributes completely WRONG and that you are NOT letting
fly with more then you are capable of. You kinda sound like the men's
auxilliary of the National Organization of Women.
>
> For instance, someone like Jayne Kulikauskas shouldn't be allowed the
> slightest deviation from the rule.  If she wants to act like a
> mannequin, then she'll be treated like one; and, she will be boxed into
> a philosophy which she either is, or isn't, being honest about.

I haven't paid much attention to her, we are like ships in the night.
>
>
> Same goes for people like Society and Mark Sobolewski.
>
> Back in high school, we had a math team which had team shirts like any
> other.  Each team member's shirt had a complex mathematical formula on
> it, and no two were the same.  Every time you solved one of these
> formulas the answer was always the same thing: 1.  This was apparently