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from: `geopelia` phildoran{at}xtr
date: 2005-01-17 19:28:00
subject: Re: Yes, Ms. Dowd: Feminism Really Was A Cruel Hoax

"Andre Lieven"  wrote in message
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>
> "geopelia" (phildoran{at}xtra.co.nz) writes:
> > "Philip Lewis"  wrote in message
> > news:351i95F4hci8lU1{at}individual.net...
> >> http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/c-e/c-e-misc/ellsworth011705.htm
> >>
> >> Yes, Ms. Dowd: Feminism Really Was A Cruel Hoax
> >>
> >> January 17, 2005
> >>
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > ------
> >> by Eva Ellsworth
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > ------
> >>  (snip)
> >
> >> Ms. Dowd asked, "So was the feminist movement a cruel
hoax?"  Yes, it
was.
> >> Not because, "The more women achieve, the less desirable
they are?" but
> >> because feminism led some women to forego their true desires to pursue
> >> careers they did not particularly want.  My secret ambition was to be a
> >> 1950s style housewife.  I kept that dream in the closet for many years
> >> because the feminist movement made me feel it was wrong to want that.
I
> > did
> >> what I was supposed to do - college followed by career.  The pressure
to
> >> excel left little time for a social life.  When I was 27, I experienced
> >> ovarian failure.  Not only will I never be able to bear a child; I will
> > also
> >> have a harder time finding a husband as a result.  My message to young
> > women
> >> is that one can go to college or find career success at any age.  When
it
> >> comes to having a family, it may be too late too soon.
> >>
> >> Eva Ellsworth
> >
> > What is really sad is the need today for both partners to work outside
the
> > home, just to pay off a mortgage and make ends meet.
>
> Indeed. As Mark Sobolowski has pointed out, this is due to women flooding
> the labour market in the late 60s/early 70s, and thus *depressing* wages.
>
> So, suck it up, ladies: YOU did that ! 
>
> > One cannot "go to
> > college and find career success" if the weekly wage is essential, and
anyway
> > there is no money for college fees. The same goes for having a child.
That
> > has to be put off until "we can afford it" when it may
be too late.
>
> Really ? Ask all those sprog whelping teens if they were deterred by
> that...
>
> > The really tragic problem is when an unplanned (yes, accidents can
happen
> > even today) but much wanted child must be aborted because there is just
no
> > other way. If the woman is well into her thirties, it may be the only
child
> > she is ever able to have.
>
> Boo, hoo, hoo. Thats called a *consequence*, ladies. Be women, suck it
> up !
>
> > We talk about the problems of teenage pregnancy, but forget about the
> > married woman who just can't afford to have the child.
>
> And, Father Nature will ensure that such women's selfish DNA gets weeded
> out of the gene pool. Thus, Feminism truely is a one way street to
> genetic irrelevence.
>
> > And if a woman wants to be a 50s style housewife, (and why shouldn't she
> > have that choice?) she must find a husband earning enough and willing to
> > support her and the children. That is not easy today.
>
> Indeed, *due to Feminist changes in divorce laws*.
>
> Thanks for showing that you don't believe that women should be rsponsible
> for their mass actions and demands. How... Feminist of you.
>
> Ptui.
>
> Andre
>
> --
> " I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
>                                     The Man Prayer, Red Green.

I wonder how old you are? You seem to have a very immature view of a serious
problem.

I'm just sorry for girls today with the terrible choices they must sometimes
make.

Geopelia.




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