From: "Rich" 

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   The sales and marketing guy being quoted is either an idiot or a =
liar.  The protection present in x64 systems protects against trojans = and
other bad code that attempt to modify the kernel or other kernel = mode
components.  Well behaved code that calls system APIs is not = affected in
any way.  What makes this guy an idiot or a liar is that = using the well
documented Windows API provides the means to remain = compatible.  Patching
and modifying random code or data in the kernel or = other components is
not portable or compatible from version to version.  = Even you, mike
miller, should be able to see this as you have whined in = the past when a
firewall you used or liked broke because it did stupid = stuff like this.

   As for making it easy for third parties to provide firewalls, =
Microsoft makes a significant effort to not only allow for this but it =
recently made it much easier with the Windows Filtering Platform =
(http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms758462.aspx).

Rich

  "/m"  wrote in message =
news:obblc29f5rrr2u0n1ufjep9jg55brsgndn{at}4ax.com...

  =3D=3D=3D
  "Microsoft made a logical move with this attempt to protect Windows
  against rootkits," said Mikhail Penkovsky, vice president of sales and
  marketing at Agnitum. "Unfortunately, it doesn't really resolve the
  problem, and also makes it a great deal more difficult for independent
  security software developers to be fully compatible with Windows."

  =3D=3D=3D

  Windows already has a firewall, why in the world would Microsoft want =
to
  make it easy for third parties to install another firewall, one that
  cannot be bypassed by Microsoft phone-home software?

   /m
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   The sales
and marketing =
guy being=20
quoted is either an idiot or a liar.  The protection present in
x64 = systems=20
protects against trojans and other bad code that attempt to modify the = kernel or=20
other kernel mode components.  Well behaved code that calls system
= APIs is=20
not affected in any way.  What makes this guy an idiot or a liar
is = that=20
using the well documented Windows API provides the means to remain=20
compatible.  Patching and modifying random code or data in the =
kernel or=20
other components is not portable or compatible from version to =
version. =20
Even you, mike miller, should be able to see this as you have =
whined in the=20
past when a firewall you used or liked broke because it did stupid stuff = like=20
this.
 
   As for
making it easy for =
third=20
parties to provide firewalls, Microsoft makes a significant effort to = not only=20
allow for this but it recently made it much easier with the Windows = Filtering=20
Platform (http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms758462.aspx"=
>).http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms758462.aspx).=
FONT>
 
Rich
 

  "/m" <mike{at}barkto.com>">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>
wrote=20
  in message news:obblc29f5rr=
r2u0n1ufjep9jg55brsgndn{at}4ax.com...=3D=3D=3D"Microsoft=20
  made a logical move with this attempt to protect Windowsagainst =
rootkits,"=20
  said Mikhail Penkovsky, vice president of sales andmarketing at =
Agnitum.=20
  "Unfortunately, it doesn't really resolve theproblem, and also =
makes it a=20
  great deal more difficult for independentsecurity software =
developers to=20
  be fully compatible with
Windows."=3D=3D=3DWindows =
already has a=20
  firewall, why in the world would Microsoft want tomake it easy for =
third=20
  parties to install another firewall, one thatcannot be bypassed by =

  Microsoft phone-home =
software? /m

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