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from: Roger Schmidt
date: 2009-03-06 20:34:00
subject: Re: Advin: A vendor to avoid

Steven Hirsch skrev:
> I'm ready to strangle the folks at Advin.  I've been looking for a 
> reasonably priced device programmer for months and their brand had come 
> highly recommended.  One of the key requirements was that it properly 
> handle small bipolar PROM devices.
> 
> Recently, a Pilot 143 came up on eBay.  I wrote to Advin and asked them 
> explicity if it supported, e.g. 74S297 and 74S571.  They responded by 
> telling me that the unit was so old that no device listing was available 
> and that the only way to tell was to download the software and see if 
> they were listed.
> 
> I did and they were.  A week and $150 later, I was staring at a Pilot 
> 143 in clean, functional condition.  Imagine my surprise when I 
> discovered that it could neither properly read nor write the PROM 
> devices.  Imagine my further surprise when the same technical support 
> folks who told me that the software was determinant NOW told me "..oh, 
> not all devices in the software are supported by the hardware and that 
> unit won't handle 74S PROMs".  All of a sudden they DO have 
> supported-device data.  Jerks.
> 
> I'm out $150 + shipping and still don't have the functionality I need.
> 
> So, onward and upward.  Does anyone have experience with Andromeda 
> Research device programmers?  This is a reasonably inexpensive unit 
> ($290) that claims to support just about everything you could hope for.  
> Even better, they make the bare boards for the various adapter modules 
> available at dirt cheap prices, along with a parts list if you want to 
> build your own (example: the 74S bipolar module is normally $139 - board 
> is $39 and uses parts I have in the bin here).
> 
> Having been burned once, I thought I'd exercise due diligence this time 
> around.  Anyone want a nice, clean programmer that will handle standard 
> EPROM and flash devices?  Best offer over $100 (plush shipping) takes it.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
Have a look at ELNEC www.elnec.com, i have one and so far worked with 
everything ive needed.
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