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date: 2005-01-17 22:09:00
subject: Re: All Men Are Bastards?

Philip Lewis wrote:
> http://www.angryharry.com/esAllMenareBastards.htm
>
> All Men Are Bastards
>
> Now, how many times have you heard that before?
>
> However, if a woman says that 'all men are bastards' then this must
be her
> experience. This must be her experience of ALL her male relatives,
ALL her
> male colleagues and ALL her male friends (if she has any).
>
> Now, you and I know that not all men are bastards, but we also know
that
> they can behave like bastards if they want to do so.
>
> So, if a woman's experience is that all men are bastards, then it
follows
> that all the men in her environment behave in a bastardly way towards
her.
>
> The question is, why do all males behave like bastards toward this
woman?

The women I've heard say "all men are bastards/dogs/jerks" usually say
it because they are simply not being treated the way (or getting what)
they want/expect.
It seems to be more about how the woman expects to be treated opposed
to how the man is actually treating her.  "I deserve to be treated
better than that".
>From my experience, a lot of women out there think they can do no
wrong, they are always right and that if things aren't going right it's
the man's fault.  It seems to be very common.



>
> Erin Pizzey, the very founder of the refuge movement for battered
women,
> found that the women in her shelters were mostly more violent than
the men
> they were supposed to be escaping from!
>
> They were also more violent toward the children.
>
> And those of you old enough will remember the strange finding that,
when
> many of these 'battered' women in the refuge shelters formed
different
> relationships with other men, these men tended to be more violent
than the
> norm.
>
> There was great psychoanalytical debate and wishy-washy twaddle
spread
> across the media concerning the reasons why these women apparently
kept
> seeking out violent men for their partners.
>
> It was a great psychological mystery.
>
> Analysts and therapists had a field day constructing ridiculous
hypotheses
> as to what deep-seated psychological traumas - usually from sexual
abuse, of
> course - accounted for this counter-intuitive phenomenon.
>
> Why did such women always choose such violent partners?
>
> Of course, no-one was allowed to contemplate openly the possibility
that the
> behaviour of these women was so appallingly selfish, irrational and
> provocative that they were the very cause of the violence against
them.
>
> In other words, they were not picking violent partners, they were
actually
> making their partners violent
>
> Now, it could be argued that men should never be violent.
>
> But, for example, when the relationship is going badly, and when men
hear
> such things as 'you'll never see your children again' or 'I'll tell
the
> police that you raped me and you'll go to prison' then you cannot
expect men
> to behave in a cool, calm fashion.
>
> Why? Because selfish, irrational and provocative women can say and do

> exactly these things, and the law won't lift a finger to help the men
or the
> children who are threatened and hurt by it all.
>
> In fact, the law actually aids and abets these women!
>
> The men have nowhere to turn. And they cannot even protect their own
> children from it all.
>
> It is politically-correct feminist laws designed to deny men equality
and
> justice in their relationships that drives so many men to act
violently. The
> laws themselves are a MAJOR cause of domestic violence across the
nation.
>
> So, the next time that you hear a woman say that 'all men are
bastards'.
> Watch out. Keep away. For she is telling you about her own history.
She is
> telling you that she is a woman who makes all men behave like
bastards
> towards her.
>
> That is her world.
>
> And she is telling you that she is a selfish, irrational and
provocative
> woman.
>
> And if the laws in the UK continue to support the actions of selfish,

> irrational and provocative women instead of ensuring fair play and
> even-handedness, then men will continue to be violent toward these
women.
>
> Further, given that MOST women CAN behave in a selfish, irrational
and
> provocative manner - and can also now get away with it - and men know
this -
> then many men will simply avoid the commitment of any close
relationship for
> they will not wish to be the helpless victims of our senseless unjust
legal
> system at anytime in the future.
>
> That's not good for men. It's not good for women. And it's certainly
not
> good for our children.


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