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In article , "Philip Lewis"
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> http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/c-e/c-e-misc/ellsworth011705.htm
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> Yes, Ms. Dowd: Feminism Really Was A Cruel Hoax
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> January 17, 2005
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> by Eva Ellsworth
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> Maureen Dowd's January 13, 2005 New York Times column "Men Just
Want Mommy"
> brought back the memory of a once popular talk t.v. topic - women who were
> so pretty that men were afraid to ask them for dates.  In the new version of
> "Why is my beauty such a curse", Ms. Dowd refers to two studies.  One
> suggests that men would rather marry their subordinates than their
> supervisors.  (Note: The study said "subordinates or equals", but that
> doesn't support Dowd's point.)  The other study states that the higher a
> woman's I.Q. is, the lower her marriage prospects are.  Ms. Dowd's implied
> attitude that she is incredibly smart and successful may be one reason some
> accomplished women aren't finding mates.  Conceited people just aren't
> lovable.
> The column makes references to movies such as Spanglish.  The plots feature
> successful men who fall in love with women in subservient positions who may
> or may not speak the same language the man speaks.  Ms. Dowd states "a lot
> of guys want to be in relationships with women they don't have to talk to."
> Since few men marry women with whom they have no common language, the
> implication is women who work in subordinate positions are dolts who are
> incapable of intelligent conversation.  Apparently, Ms. Dowd thinks
> secretaries, nannies and others in service jobs do not read books or
> newspapers, take courses or have hobbies or interests.

Ms. Dowd, like MOST professionally 'trained' women think EXACTLY that. I've
not met and dealt with a 'professional' woman who treated me, for my career
choice in the building trades, with any respect. And women MD's? Forget it.
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> As for the first study, is it necessarily a bad thing for men to prefer
> equals and subordinates as wives?  Ms. Dowd bemoans the
"trend" that "famous
> and powerful men took up with the young women whose job it was to tend to
> them and care for them in some way: their secretaries, assistants, nannies,
> caterers, flight attendants, researchers and fact checkers."  The
attraction
> is perfectly normal because, traditionally, wives nurture their husbands and
> children.  Also, don't all people want spouses who will care for them?  For
> example, I like it when a man walks me to my door and sees me safely inside
> after a date.  Men who do that make me feel more cared for than those who
> expect me to drive myself home.
>
> I think there is another reason why men tend to get involved with
> secretaries, assistants, researchers, fact checkers and nannies.  These jobs
> involve working closely with one's boss.  Daily one-on-one interactions are
> conducive to the formation of close friendships and, possibly, to romance.
> Men usually do not enter these professions.   Generally, when women are
> supervisors, their male employees work more independently.  This often
> limits interactions to daily briefings and departmental meetings -
> situations in which the development of close friendship or romance is less
> likely.
>
> The I.Q. study results may not mean men like stupid women.  Women with high
> I.Q.s may be so involved in intellectual pursuits that they have little time
> for socializing.  It is also possible that women with high I.Q.s may be less
> adept at small talk and other social skills than less intellectually gifted
> women.

They're also stuck on doing things 'their way' because they are SOOO smart,
they and they alone KNOW what is correct.
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> There are many possible explanations of the results of these studies.
> Explanations other than Ms. Dowd's unflattering idea that men like women who
> work in subservient jobs, (and, presumably, have low I.Q.s), because these
> women cater to them and "look upon the men they work for as 'the moon, the
> sun and the stars'".   After reading her "Men Just Want
Mommy" column, I
> decided that if Ms. Dowd is single, it might be because she has a low
> opinion of men.

Don't you know it.
>
> Ms. Dowd asked, "So was the feminist movement a cruel hoax?"
 Yes, it was.
> Not because, "The more women achieve, the less desirable they
are?" but
> because feminism led some women to forego their true desires to pursue
> careers they did not particularly want.  My secret ambition was to be a
> 1950s style housewife.  I kept that dream in the closet for many years
> because the feminist movement made me feel it was wrong to want that.  I did
> what I was supposed to do - college followed by career.  The pressure to
> excel left little time for a social life.  When I was 27, I experienced
> ovarian failure.  Not only will I never be able to bear a child; I will also
> have a harder time finding a husband as a result.

Bullshit, Eva. Any one who is loving, caring, generous and truly willing to
SHARE their life can find a spouse. If you THINK you can't, you won't.

> My message to young women
> is that one can go to college or find career success at any age.  When it
> comes to having a family, it may be too late too soon.
>
> Eva Ellsworth
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>

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