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   I don't know names but I would suspect all rootkits plus more.  =
Beyond that some bad software does, apparently including the crap sold = by
the company the sales and marketing guy shills for.

Rich

  "Geo"  wrote in message
news:44cd150c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  What trojans or malware are known to modify the kernel or other kernel =
mode components?

  Geo.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:44cac451$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       The sales and marketing guy being quoted is either an idiot or a =
liar.  The protection present in x64 systems protects against trojans = and
other bad code that attempt to modify the kernel or other kernel = mode
components.  Well behaved code that calls system APIs is not = affected in
any way.  What makes this guy an idiot or a liar is that = using the well
documented Windows API provides the means to remain = compatible.  Patching
and modifying random code or data in the kernel or = other components is
not portable or compatible from version to version.  = Even you, mike
miller, should be able to see this as you have whined in = the past when a
firewall you used or liked broke because it did stupid = stuff like this.

       As for making it easy for third parties to provide firewalls, =
Microsoft makes a significant effort to not only allow for this but it =
recently made it much easier with the Windows Filtering Platform =
(http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms758462.aspx).

    Rich


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   I don't
know names but I =
would suspect=20
all rootkits plus more.  Beyond that some bad software does, = apparently=20
including the crap sold by the company the sales and marketing guy = shills=20
for.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:44cd150c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  What trojans or malware are known to =
modify the=20
  kernel or other kernel mode components?
   
  Geo.
  

    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:44cac451$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       The sales and =
marketing guy being=20
    quoted is either an idiot or a liar.  The protection present in =
x64=20
    systems protects against trojans and other bad code that attempt to =
modify=20
    the kernel or other kernel mode components.  Well behaved code =
that=20
    calls system APIs is not affected in any way.  What makes this =
guy an=20
    idiot or a liar is that using the well documented Windows API =
provides the=20
    means to remain compatible.  Patching and modifying random code =
or data=20
    in the kernel or other components is not portable or compatible from =
version=20
    to version.  Even you, mike miller, should be able to see =
this as=20
    you have whined in the past when a firewall you used or liked broke =
because=20
    it did stupid stuff like this.
     
       As
for making it easy =
for third=20
    parties to provide firewalls, Microsoft makes a significant effort =
to not=20
    only allow for this but it recently made it much easier with the =
Windows=20
    Filtering Platform (http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms758462.aspx"=
>).http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms758462.aspx).=
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    Rich
     
     

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