On 23/07/2019 21:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 23/07/2019 19:52, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>> On 23/07/2019 18:59, mm0fmf wrote:
>>> On 23/07/2019 12:00, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> mm0fmf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the reason is that the user name consists of two words
>>>>>>> with a space in between.
>>>>
>>>> Presumably it's easy enough to create another user for testing?
>>>>
>>>>>> The term 'facepalm' springs to mind here.
>>>>>
>>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>>
<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/it-pro/windows-2000
-server/bb726984(v=technet.10)>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's an old article, but
>>>>
>>>> "Logon names can contain all other special characters, including
>>>> spaces, periods, dashes, and underscores. But it's generally not a
>>>> good idea to use spaces in account names"
>>>
>>> Exactly. I've been writing software and such for 36 years for a job.
>>> In that time the one thing I have learnt is that the simpler you keep
>>> usernames and filenames then the more likely you will have success.
>>> Partly it's because the ASCII character set perfectly encompasses the
>>> words I need to write so I have never need umlauts or accents or
>>> other non-ASCII characters. I realise this is a big limitation for
>>> many people on mainland Europe and significant limitation for
>>> non-Latin scripts such as Russia or Asia etc. But hey, consider this,
>>> Shakespeare & Chaucer wrote some damn fine prose in only 24
>>> characters so you should ask whether your language really needs all
>>> those squiggles! (That's a joke BTW.)
>>>
>>> There's no reason why usernames and filenames cannot be UTF-8 or
>>> whatever you want but there is the simple fact lurking that an awful
>>> lot of code has been written when everything was ASCII only (or 7bit
>>> ASCII even) or written by programmers who only think ASCII. The
>>> result is code that considers the space to be a delimiter in a user
>>> name such that your username is 'Fokke Nauta' to Windows and 'Fokke'
>>> to something else as it doesn't accept whitespace and the like.
>>>
>>> So in my simple view, just because you can use a space in a username
>>> doesn't mean you should. In fact I think it's a positively dangerous
>>> or even stupid thing to do. It's the equivalent of pulling the pin
>>> out of a grenade and just keeping tight hold of the grip so it
>>> doesn't go off. Eventually something will cause a big bang and spoil
>>> your day. Trust me.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure you can have a space in a Linux username, I've never
>>> checked. You can try an create a new Windows user, Picard say to keep
>>> the facepalm subject relevant and create your Picard user on the Pi
>>> and see if that fixes things. Or maybe you need to merely escape the
>>> space on any command lines in the normal way (i.e. a \ before the space,
>>> i.e. fokke\ nauta
>>>
>>> Me, I'd go fix the username to fokkenauta and kill all the issues in
>>> one fell swoop.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> But how did we get here? By the suggestion to use my Windows user name
>> and password for logging into the Pi share.
>> We have quite a lot of Windows machines here, and all user names are
>> "firstname space surname", and a password. I'm not going to change that.
>> I have started off with the creation of a user in the Pi, with the
>> name "pi" and a password. I thought I should be able to log into the
>> Pi share from my Windows machine, with this user name and password.
>> Although I can see the share from my Windows machines, I can't login.
>> Wrong password, it says.
>
> Have you managed to create a linux user with a space in its name?

No. I tried to create my Windows user name on the pi, with sudo
smbpasswd -a 'Fokke Nauta', but after twice typing in the password it
said: Failed to add entry for user Fokke Nauta.

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>> Tried it with Windows 7, running in a virtual machine, and that worked
>> well. But not for Windows 10, what we got here.
>>
>> Thank you all for all the hints and tips and suggestions, but I have
>> given up.
>>
>> No logging in the share of the Pi.
>> I use it as a Pi hole, and wanted to log into a share I made. Just for
>> fun, working with a Linux machine. I thought it should work.
>> But it didn't.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Fokke
>>
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