On 23/07/2019 19:52, Fokke Nauta wrote:
> On 23/07/2019 18:59, mm0fmf wrote:
>> On 23/07/2019 12:00, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>
>>>> mm0fmf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the reason is that the user name consists of two words
>>>>>> with a space in between.
>>>
>>> Presumably it's easy enough to create another user for testing?
>>>
>>>>> The term 'facepalm' springs to mind here.
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>
>>>
<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/it-pro/windows-2000
-server/bb726984(v=technet.10)>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's an old article, but
>>>
>>> "Logon names can contain all other special characters, including
>>> spaces, periods, dashes, and underscores. But it's generally not a
>>> good idea to use spaces in account names"
>>
>> Exactly. I've been writing software and such for 36 years for a job.
>> In that time the one thing I have learnt is that the simpler you keep
>> usernames and filenames then the more likely you will have success.
>> Partly it's because the ASCII character set perfectly encompasses the
>> words I need to write so I have never need umlauts or accents or other
>> non-ASCII characters. I realise this is a big limitation for many
>> people on mainland Europe and significant limitation for non-Latin
>> scripts such as Russia or Asia etc. But hey, consider this,
>> Shakespeare & Chaucer wrote some damn fine prose in only 24 characters
>> so you should ask whether your language really needs all those
>> squiggles! (That's a joke BTW.)
>>
>> There's no reason why usernames and filenames cannot be UTF-8 or
>> whatever you want but there is the simple fact lurking that an awful
>> lot of code has been written when everything was ASCII only (or 7bit
>> ASCII even) or written by programmers who only think ASCII. The result
>> is code that considers the space to be a delimiter in a user name such
>> that your username is 'Fokke Nauta' to Windows and 'Fokke' to
>> something else as it doesn't accept whitespace and the like.
>>
>> So in my simple view, just because you can use a space in a username
>> doesn't mean you should. In fact I think it's a positively dangerous
>> or even stupid thing to do. It's the equivalent of pulling the pin out
>> of a grenade and just keeping tight hold of the grip so it doesn't go
>> off. Eventually something will cause a big bang and spoil your day.
>> Trust me.
>>
>> I'm not sure you can have a space in a Linux username, I've never
>> checked. You can try an create a new Windows user, Picard say to keep
>> the facepalm subject relevant and create your Picard user on the Pi
>> and see if that fixes things. Or maybe you need to merely escape the
>> space on any command lines in the normal way (i.e. a \ before the space,
>> i.e. fokke\ nauta
>>
>> Me, I'd go fix the username to fokkenauta and kill all the issues in
>> one fell swoop.
>>
>
> Thanks.
>
> But how did we get here? By the suggestion to use my Windows user name
> and password for logging into the Pi share.
> We have quite a lot of Windows machines here, and all user names are
> "firstname space surname", and a password. I'm not going to change that.
> I have started off with the creation of a user in the Pi, with the name
> "pi" and a password. I thought I should be able to log into the Pi share
> from my Windows machine, with this user name and password.
> Although I can see the share from my Windows machines, I can't login.
> Wrong password, it says.

Have you managed to create a linux user with a space in its name?



> Tried it with Windows 7, running in a virtual machine, and that worked
> well. But not for Windows 10, what we got here.
>
> Thank you all for all the hints and tips and suggestions, but I have
> given up.
>
> No logging in the share of the Pi.
> I use it as a Pi hole, and wanted to log into a share I made. Just for
> fun, working with a Linux machine. I thought it should work.
> But it didn't.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Fokke
>
>
>


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