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from: `geopelia` phildoran{at}xtr
date: 2005-01-20 18:28:00
subject: Re: Yes, Ms. Dowd: Feminism Really Was A Cruel Hoax

"Andre Lieven"  wrote in message
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>
> "Heidi Graw" (heidigraw{at}shaw.ca) writes:
> >>"Andre Lieven" 
wrote in message
> >>news:cshbg9$877$1{at}theodyn.ncf.ca...
> >>
> > (snip)
> >
> >>Andre wrote:
> >> Sure. Labour saving devices are mostly, in the home, aimed at
> >> women. From SUVs to washers and frost free fridges, all those
> >> need to be built, sold, transported, and provided with power.
> >>
> >> So, women are driving a *lot* of the demands for lifestyle that
> >> is at the root of increased pollution, as well as the added
> >> congestion on roads, and the added needed fuel for said vehicles.
> >
> > Ah...that simple cabin in the woods... Horse-drawn carriages, well-drawn
> > water and hewing of logs to build those fires to keep warm.
>
> Among the parts of my post that you snipped out, was a reference to
> the 1950s, which was hardly a time of " horse drawn " anything.
>
> So, once again, in order to try to make a fallacious claim, you
> have to resort to LYING about what your interlocutor actually said.

(snip
>
Horses were still used in the 1950s. I  drove a horse and cart for two years
as a herd tester in New Zealand .We were supplied with one.  One advantage
on the road - a pair of eyes right in front to see traffic at intersections!

Geopelia






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