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echo: osdebate
to: Rich
from: Adam
date: 2006-09-18 19:31:40
subject: Re: Ripping verboten?

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Rich wrote:
>    You should talk with george who asserts that format conversion and
> transfer to a music player is fair use.  I'm sure you have made this
> assertion before to and your reversal is interesting.
>

Nope It's MS who're making out that altering other people's files w/o
permission in order to make money is now OK. I'm not surprised that your
views follow the views du jour of your corporate masters though.

Adam

> Rich
>
>     "Adam"      > wrote in message
>     news:450e3931$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>     Rich wrote:
>     >    Why haven't you made this claim about the format conversion apple
>     > software performs to support their commercial activities?  Or are you
>     > claiming some rediculous difference?
>     >
>
>     I don't like any music player which changes my tunes to suit it. I took
>     back a purple sony thing which did that.
>
>     I did not give it permission to alter my tracks. Where the tracks were
>     owned by another (e.g. MP3'es d/led from the bbc) I am not aware of the
>     bbc giving their permission etc.
>
>     It's definitely outside of fair use but you know that which is why
>     you're raising these fatuous points to try & cover your corp sponsored
>     hypocrisy.
>
>     Adam
>
>
>     > Rich
>     >
>     >
>     >     "Adam"
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
>     
>     >    
 field.near the
bridge">
>     >     wrote in message news:450c77a7{at}w3.nls.net...
>     >     Rich wrote:
>     >      >    So riping from CD is a copyright violation by your
>     definition?
>     >      >
>     >
>     >     in order to make money off then yes.
>     >
>     >     & MS is seeking to have this as a selling point & thus make
>     money off.
>     >
>     >     Adam
>     >
>     >      > Rich
>     >      >
>     >      >     "Adam"
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
>     
>     >     
>     >      >    
 field.near the
>     >     bridge">
>     >      >     wrote in message news:450b40d5{at}w3.nls.net...
>     >      >     I wonder if it changes the file in any way. If
>     >      >     so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file
then like a
>     >     movie or
>     >      >     piece of music "rearranging without
permission" etc is
>     verboten.
>     >      >
>     >      >     Adam
>     >      >
>     >      >

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