From: "Rich" 

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   I have always thought it OK rip your own CDs for your own use.  I =
have also thought it OK to further format shift into other formats =
including transfering to your ipod or other music player for your own =
use.  I'm pretty sure you have asserted this position as well in the =
past.  Only now do you act like an idiot with some silly position that = it
is illegal for apple to support format shifting in itunes if they try = to
make money on ipods and itunes.  Why haven't you been more vocal = about
your silly position for the past few years?

Rich

  "Adam"  wrote in message =
news:4510e6c8{at}w3.nls.net...
  Rich wrote:
  >    What an idiot.  You think I believe ripping is OK only because my =

  > employer thinks it is OK?  What a hoot!=20

  Nope I think your views change as those of your employer change.

  > And your sudden assertion that=20
  > ripping is not OK is because of what?
  > =20

  I never said it was right to rip in order to make money. Home=20
  backup/format shifting by the person who has purchased the media etc =
is=20
  fine but to make money makes you into a publisher. You are the one who =

  holds it's fine for people to rip so long as it makes your employer =
money.

  Adam

  > Rich
  > =20
  >=20
  >     "Adam"      > wrote in message
  >     news:45100d5a{at}w3.nls.net...
  >     Rich wrote:
  >      >    Apparently you.  My views haven't changed.  You appear to =
take
  >     silly
  >      > positions at the drop of a hat.
  >      >=20
  >      > Rich
  >      >=20
  >      >
  >      >     "Adam"      
  >      >     > wrote in message
  >      >     news:450fecc9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >      >     Rich wrote:
  >      >      >    My views haven't changed.  I think it is OK to rip =
your own
  >      >     CDs for
  >      >      > your own use.  Always have.  You are changing your =
tune and
  >      >     looking like
  >      >      > a fool with your new very silly assertions.
  >      >      >
  >      >
  >      >
  >      >
  >      >     So Rich who is the fool/has his views dictated to him by =
his
  >     betters?
  >      >
  >      >     Adam
  >     Nope, You simply take whatever position your employer takes, =
which
  >     is in
  >     itself dictated by the search from profits.
  >=20
  >     Adam
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   I have
always thought it =
OK rip your=20
own CDs for your own use.  I have also thought it OK to further = format=20
shift into other formats including transfering to your ipod or other = music=20
player for your own use.  I'm pretty sure you have asserted this =
position=20
as well in the past.  Only now do you act like an idiot with some = silly=20
position that it is illegal for apple to support format shifting in = itunes if=20
they try to make money on ipods and itunes.  Why haven't you been = more=20
vocal about your silly position for the past few years?
 
Rich
 

  "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts{at}moesmailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts{at}moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts{at}moes
A>>=20
  wrote in message news:4510e6c8{at}w3.nls.net...Ri=
ch=20
  wrote:>    What an
idiot.  You think I =
believe=20
  ripping is OK only because my > employer thinks it is
OK?  =
What a=20
  hoot! Nope I think your views change as those of your
employer =

  change.> And your sudden assertion that
> ripping is =
not OK=20
  is because of what?>  I
never said it was right to =
rip in=20
  order to make money. Home backup/format shifting by the person who =
has=20
  purchased the media etc is fine but to make money makes you into a =

  publisher. You are the one who holds it's fine for people to rip =
so long=20
  as it makes your employer
money.Adam> =
Rich> =20
  >
>     "Adam"
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{at}moes>>=20
  wrote in message>     news:45100d5a{at}w3.nls.net...>=
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  Rich wrote:>      =
>   =20
  Apparently you.  My views haven't changed.  You appear to=20
  take>    =20
  silly>     
> positions at the drop =
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  wrote in
message>     =20
  >     news:450fecc9$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>     =20
  >     Rich =
wrote:>     =20
  >     
>    My views =
haven't=20
  changed.  I think it is OK to rip your=20
  own>     
>     =
CDs=20
  for>      =
>     =20
  > your own use.  Always have.  You are changing
your tune =

  and>     
>     =
looking=20
  like>      =
>     =20
  > a fool with your new very silly=20
  assertions.>     =20
  >      =
>>     =20
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>     So=20
  Rich who is the fool/has his views dictated to him by=20
  his>    =20
  betters?>     =20
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>    =20
  Adam>     Nope, You
simply take whatever =
position=20
  your employer takes,
which>     is=20
  in>     itself
dictated by the search from=20
  profits.>
>    =20
Adam

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