TIP: Click on subject to list as thread! ANSI
echo: osdebate
to: All
from: Rich
date: 2006-09-21 21:43:54
subject: Re: Ripping verboten?

From: "Rich" 

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_03BC_01C6DDC7.096963D0
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

   If I ignore the bullshit here and reply in regard to what I saw =
claimed in one of the press articles about the Zune it won't please the =
folks looking for reasons to whine and complain.  I may as well.  The =
article I read described how a user can share a piece of music he =
purchased with others so that the others get limited trial version.  If =
this is the case they the issue is entirely a contractual issue with the =
music providers.

   Sharing other files would be interesting but I suspect opens the door =
to claims of infringment unless some court has ruled that you are = allowed
to share whole works.  I have no memory of this.

Rich

  "Geo"  wrote in message
news:451352e5$2{at}w3.nls.net...
  Ok to all you said below but I was really trying to ask you about your =
thoughts on the capability in the Zune thingie about sharing the file. =
Adam made the point that you typically take the ms corporate viewpoint =
and I kinda wanted to hear your thoughts on the sharing capability and = if
you consider that a fair use and if so the logic behind that opinion? =
(I'm thinking we may finally have a copyright issue were we agree)

  Geo.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:4512e62c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       No.  This is about the following statements from adam

      I wonder if it changes the file in any way. If
      so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like a movie =
or
      piece of music "rearranging without permission" etc is verboten.

    The rearranging to which he is referring is what you call format =
shifting.

    Rich

------=_NextPart_000_03BC_01C6DDC7.096963D0
Content-Type: text/html;
        charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable








   If I
ignore the bullshit =
here and=20
reply in regard to what I saw claimed in one of the press articles about = the=20
Zune it won't please the folks looking for reasons to whine and =
complain. =20
I may as well.  The article I read described how a user can share
a = piece=20
of music he purchased with others so that the others get limited trial=20
version.  If this is the case they the issue is entirely a =
contractual=20
issue with the music providers.
 
   Sharing
other files would =
be=20
interesting but I suspect opens the door to claims of infringment unless = some=20
court has ruled that you are allowed to share whole works.  I have = no=20
memory of this.
 
Rich
 
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net> wrote=20 in message news:451352e5$2{at}w3.nls.net... Ok to all you said below but I was = really trying=20 to ask you about your thoughts on the capability in the Zune thingie = about=20 sharing the file. Adam made the point that you typically take the ms = corporate=20 viewpoint and I kinda wanted to hear your thoughts on the sharing = capability=20 and if you consider that a fair use and if so the logic behind that = opinion?=20 (I'm thinking we may finally have a copyright issue were we=20 agree) Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:4512e62c$1{at}w3.nls.net... No. This is = about the=20 following statements from adam I wonder if it changes the file in any way.=20 Ifso.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like a = movie=20 orpiece of music "rearranging without permission" etc is=20 verboten. The rearranging to which he is = referring is=20 what you call format shifting. Rich ------=_NextPart_000_03BC_01C6DDC7.096963D0-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
* Origin: Barktopia BBS Site http://HarborWebs.com:8081 (1:379/45)
SEEN-BY: 633/267 270
@PATH: 379/45 1 633/267

SOURCE: echomail via fidonet.ozzmosis.com

Email questions or comments to sysop@ipingthereforeiam.com
All parts of this website painstakingly hand-crafted in the U.S.A.!
IPTIA BBS/MUD/Terminal/Game Server List, © 2025 IPTIA Consulting™.