From: "Rich" 

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   You should talk with george who asserts that format conversion and =
transfer to a music player is fair use.  I'm sure you have made this =
assertion before to and your reversal is interesting.

Rich
  "Adam"  wrote in message =
news:450e3931$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Rich wrote:
  >    Why haven't you made this claim about the format conversion apple =

  > software performs to support their commercial activities?  Or are =
you=20
  > claiming some rediculous difference?
  > =20

  I don't like any music player which changes my tunes to suit it. I =
took=20
  back a purple sony thing which did that.

  I did not give it permission to alter my tracks. Where the tracks were =

  owned by another (e.g. MP3'es d/led from the bbc) I am not aware of =
the=20
  bbc giving their permission etc.

  It's definitely outside of fair use but you know that which is why=20
  you're raising these fatuous points to try & cover your corp sponsored =

  hypocrisy.

  Adam


  > Rich
  > =20
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  >     "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
  >     
field.near the =
bridge">
  >     wrote in message news:450c77a7{at}w3.nls.net...
  >     Rich wrote:
  >      >    So riping from CD is a copyright violation by your =
definition?
  >      >=20
  >=20
  >     in order to make money off then yes.
  >=20
  >     & MS is seeking to have this as a selling point & thus make =
money off.
  >=20
  >     Adam
  >=20
  >      > Rich
  >      >
  >      >     "Adam"
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
  >     
  >      >    
 field.near the
  >     bridge">
  >      >     wrote in message news:450b40d5{at}w3.nls.net...
  >      >     I wonder if it changes the file in any way. If
  >      >     so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like =
a
  >     movie or
  >      >     piece of music "rearranging without
permission" etc is =
verboten.
  >      >
  >      >     Adam
  >      >
  >      >
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   You
should talk with =
george who=20
asserts that format conversion and transfer to a music player is fair =
use. =20
I'm sure you have made this assertion before to and your reversal is=20
interesting.
 
Rich

  "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts{at}moesmailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts{at}moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts{at}moes
A>>=20
  wrote in message news:450e3931$1{at}w3.nls.net...Rich=20
  wrote:>    Why haven't you
made this claim about =
the=20
  format conversion apple > software performs to support their =
commercial=20
  activities?  Or are you > claiming some rediculous=20
  difference?>  I don't like
any music player which =
changes=20
  my tunes to suit it. I took back a purple sony thing which did=20
  that.I did not give it permission to alter my tracks. Where =
the tracks=20
  were owned by another (e.g. MP3'es d/led from the bbc) I am not =
aware of=20
  the bbc giving their permission etc.It's definitely =
outside of=20
  fair use but you know that which is why you're raising these =
fatuous=20
  points to try & cover your corp sponsored=20
 
hypocrisy.Adam>
Rich>  > =

  >    
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themolehill\"{at}the>=20
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  Rich wrote:>      =
>    So=20
  riping from CD is a copyright violation by your=20
 
definition?>     
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  >     in order to
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  >     & MS
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  wrote in message news:450b40d5{at}w3.nls.net...>=
     =20
  >     I wonder if it changes
the file in any =
way.=20
  If>     
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  so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like=20
  a>     movie=20
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  music "rearranging without permission" etc is=20
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