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from: JOHN KENNERSON
date: 2014-11-13 05:25:00
subject: Dummy Dumbstin Duckfart #

Of course he blames the rest of the world for setting him up.

Asswipe Extraordinaire!

"The entire Dustin incident started because a user here was marketing a
product which wasn't as he claimed, wasn't nerely as safe as he
claimed. I disproved his claims with an example virus; known as
antichekmate. Martin Overton decided he wouldn't visit the website
where the virus was kept; and until he recieved a sample for himself,
he wouldn't acknowledge he was beaten. I sent him the virus binary
(with his permission) from an account I don't normally email with; It
did have Dustin's name on it for the username. I recieved no bounce
back, or otherwise noticed any problems with the first mailing. I
inquired as to if Martin had recieved it yet, he claimed he did not.
So, stupidly, I sent it again; from the same address, Not thinking for
one second I was being setup."


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From: raid...@yahoo.com (Raid)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
Subject: Re: Virus Bulletin... wtf?
Date: 25 Feb 2002 14:34:47 -0800
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sop...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote in message
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> Nah.. they're not saying you're the same person.  They're saying you used
> the name Dustin Cook.  Which you did.  It's all on Google if you want to
> find the thread.  Or allow me..

They are saying, "A virus writer known varicously as Dustin Cook, Raid
or Casio".. They are claiming Raid and Dustin are the same person.
It's a cute ploy at legal evasion Graham, but not sufficient. I
explained in detail how that name was released in the first place.
Every attempt you fellows made to link the two failed, Virus bulletin
had no right to even hint that Dustin Cook might be involved in
anything which many consider to be bad.

I realize the antivirus world holds themselves on a pedestal all their
own, But virus bulletin clearly is in error. It's a term known as
mudslinging, it's very irresponsible; and in some cases, downright
illegal. I strongly suspect Virus Bulletin stepped over the lines on
this one, hence the post I made.

The entire Dustin incident started because a user here was marketing a
product which wasn't as he claimed, wasn't nerely as safe as he
claimed. I disproved his claims with an example virus; known as
antichekmate. Martin Overton decided he wouldn't visit the website
where the virus was kept; and until he recieved a sample for himself,
he wouldn't acknowledge he was beaten. I sent him the virus binary
(with his permission) from an account I don't normally email with; It
did have Dustin's name on it for the username. I recieved no bounce
back, or otherwise noticed any problems with the first mailing. I
inquired as to if Martin had recieved it yet, he claimed he did not.
So, stupidly, I sent it again; from the same address, Not thinking for
one second I was being setup.
(I wrongly assumed you guys in the av world had credibility,
integrity; and generally weren't interested in setting people up).

This time Martin admitted he recieved the file. His website was quick
to announce changes made to his program; Giving credit to himself for
discovering all of the holes my anticheckmate virus exploited.

In retailation, Martin decided to "drop the docs" on me, and post the
information he'd gathered from the email he solicited. A very clever
ploy, and it worked. Again, I assumed you were above what you tell the
public we are. Your not. I learned.

The moment the name was offered as to be my name, I denied it (as it
isn't my name). The fact I was using the name doesn't allow virus
bulletin, you or anyone else to claim Dustin and Raid are the same
person. {I told you then, We aren't the same person].

The fact that virus bulletin published the name and linked it to Raid
is pretty sorry for a so called professional organization. Especially
since they were told it's not the persons name, and that he didn't
have permission to use it, he simply did. Virus Bulletin apparently
believes in vigilante style tactics. I find, it to be most
unprofessional and pathetic. Not to mention, probably illegal. (It's
defamation of character in the united states), I suspect UK has a
similiar law? Maybe, we'll get the chance to find out.


Regards,
Raid [slam]

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