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from: Stanfieldsarah{at}yahoo.Com
date: 2005-03-29 20:51:00
subject: Re: Discrimination against Men (and boys) in the UK...

>The discrimination against men is clearly evident in:
>the under-achievement of boys in education;

Maybe fathers should spend more tie teaching their sons.

>the denial of men's basic human rights within the legal system and
social
>services

Which legal system? In the British legal system?

>particularly in respect of: anonymity for accusers who allege sex
crimes, prosecutions >for domestic violence where allegations are not
supported by evidence, and attacks on
>the presumption of innocence for men accused of crimes;

I will admit I am not an British so I can not speak for their laws at
this time, however in the US who have the right to face your accuser
and you can not prosecute anyone for anything with out evidence. I will
assume it is the same in Britain until I see something showing that not
to be the case.

>the exclusion of men from the family home and the reluctance or
refusal of
>the family courts to act where children are denied contact with their
>fathers following divorce;

You need to keep this more specific you are speaking about so many
different issues as to make this an effective topic. In the US however
there are fifty different states with fifty different family law
systems. I can't speak about Britain.

>paternity fraud and access to DNA testing for paternal certainty;

Wouldn't access to DNA help show the father was/wasn't responsible for
the child?

>the massive bias towards women in the public provision of preventative
health services;

I've actually seen the opposite, that there are more public provisions
of preventative health services geared toward men. But I am not in
Britain.

>the life chances of men being reduced by the influence of feminist
mediators within >public services, who resolve conflicts of interest in
favour of women, ostensibly "in the >interests of children".

this really is very general so that there are almost no points to argue
since this covers such a broad spectrum of topics.

>Men now experience widespread and systematic sex discrimination,
>particularly when they encounter the public services.

Vague

>The remarkable thing is that the new sexism is public,
institutionalised and often overt.

Vague

>Nowhere is the institutional bias against men more obvious than in the
media
>were negative and demeaning images of men are frequently used to
undermine,
>denigrate and ridicule masculinity.

Seen a rap video recently? Say who owns the media?

>Of course, the media are subject to many influences, but the hostility
to
>men has become so single-minded and relentless, precisely because it
is the
>result of an organised effort by groups of highly motivated activists
who
>are determined to impose their radical feminist agenda on society.

Well if you are not motivated.

>  These groups operate throughout society, but with particular effect
in the public
>realm through the media, regulators of public service and private
sector
>broadcasting, publishing and in other government agencies like the Law

>Commission and the laughably misnamed Equal Opportunities Commission.

Wait, whose EEOC?

>Other activists use their professional positions within quasi-public
>institutions like the Law Society; and public services like the Crown
>Prosecution Service.

Well then become an activist and advicate your cause, since apparently
the pages are spread across the world you should probably aim for
something in Britain if you are hoping to change the law.

> In fact, the activists occupy important decision-making positions
within an informal and >sexist network that permeates the political
establishment, and governing elite.

I guess you are speaking of political organizations, well start your
own political organization., obviously if wopmen are doing what you say
they are it is because they did. This is not witch craft.

>This even extends to Government Ministers, who seem to forget that
they are supposed
>to represent the interests of men as well as women.

Start a political movement then

>The activists operate more or less covertly, depending on the
positions they occupy and >whether they need to maintain the pretence
of impartiality.

see above.

>Most pay lip service to sexual equality, as required by the 1975 Act
and the law, but in >practice they are engaged in a process of
subverting men's human rights.

Great! if they are violating the law then sue them.

>These gatekeepers promote their radical feminist agenda by mounting
media
>campaigns which integrate press, TV and radio reports, and which are
linked
>to staged pressure group actions and the introduction of feminist
>legislation.

See above.

> They also do their best to spoil and deny access to alternative
perspectives, which >promote the legitimate interests of men.

See above.

>The overwhelming feminist domination of social and cultural commentary

>ensures that issues are presented from an exclusively female
perspective
>that subjects men to largely unchallenged judgmental and sexist
criticism.

See above.

>Even when the outcome of an issue has significant implications for
men's
>rights, the male perspective is ignored or dismissed.  There is no
sense of
>men being defined as a group in order to defend their collective
rights in a
>way that happens automatically and without fail for women.  There is,
>however, always an organised chorus of commentators lined up to give
the
>feminist line on the issues of the day and they are primed to give
>word-perfect responses to planted questions designed to put down the
men's
>movement.

See above.

>Radical feminist activists in public services are working in a
fundamentally
>ndemocratic way, with the support of a small and unrepresentative (but

>nfluential) metropolitan elite, to force their self-serving and
>nfrontational ideology on society.  Instead of representing mainstream

>society, they are abusing their positions of authority to subvert the
values
>of ordinary people.

Start a political group, Sue under the 1975 law.

> Working in concert with pressure groups, they systematically provoke
divisive conflicts >of interest between men and women, and then proceed
to rig the argument in favour of >women.  The media have been captured
by extremists who are determined to drive >through a subversive agenda
that undermines the collective values of mainstream society.

Start a political group.

Ok this is getting boring, start a politcal group in the UK if you
think there are disparities.



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