-=> BOB ACKLEY wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

 BA> Replying to a message of DAVE DRUM to EARL CROASMUN:

 DD> How about understanding that a "corporate person" is a legal
 DD> fiction limiting liability of the actual persons involved
 DD> in that corporation. That however is not guaranteed ... as
 DD> has been learned by several "robber barons" who went bust
 DD> or ripped off their patrons.

 BA> It's not a legal fiction, a corporation is in fact an 'artificial
 BA> person' in law.  And it is possible to pierce that corporate veil to
 BA> identify and if need be get at the owners.

 DD> A corporate person is not the same as a human person as
 DD> addressed in "We the People of the United States, in Order
 DD> to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure
 DD> domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,
 DD> promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of
 DD> Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and
 DD> establish this Constitution for the United States of
 DD> America."

 BA> Actually, companies as such existed before the US was founded.  Two
 BA> things in particular differentiate the corporate 'person' from a human;
 BA> one is that the corporate person cannot vote, another is that the
 BA> corporate person can exist forever ("in perpetuity" is the usual
 BA> terminology).

 DD> And thus should not be guaranteed the protections granted to
 DD> individual human citizens ... especially since a
 DD> corporation cannot be a citizen, is not eligible to vote
 DD> (altho with the recent mis-guided decision of the supremes
 DD> it may be able to buy votes), and cannot be elected to
 DD> office.

 BA> Non corporate entities also buy politicians.  The decision you disagree
 BA> with merely levels the field.  Since all politicians in this country
 BA> are bought and paid for, I'd just like to know just who owns which
 BA> politicians.

Get an internet connection.

There are web sites devoted to tracking corporate donations
to congressional political candidates.

It's quite revolting.



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