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echo: philos
to: DENNIS MENARD
from: WILLIAM ELLIOT
date: 1998-01-11 01:59:00
subject: Ethics

 >>> Dennis Menard on Ethics 
 DM> Got it, finally; interesting.  Conspiracy Nation ... yow!  :)
Yup, didn't find anything yet about Waco or Oklahoma in www.amnesty.org but 
there are plenty of other things there even some pepper spraying in Canada.
 
 DM> Asking industry any questions is un-American, isn't it?  :)  The
 DM> logging issue in B.C. has also become a good excuse for flooding the
 DM> media with a menu of blatent nonsense (ie, patently ridiculous replies
 DM> to serious con- cerns, misquotes, etc.) and outrageous behaviour, by
 DM> the logging industry itself.
So how are you being out raged?  Hear something about Vancouver Island, 
little about BC.  It takes the muddying of a medium size town's water supply 
to get even slight note.  Even land slides that wipe out a whole family are 
little considered.
 DM> USA: Police use of pepper spray -- tantamount to torture
 DM> The protestors screamed as deputies pulled back
 DM> their heads, opened their eyes, and "swabbed" the burning liquid to
 DM> their eyeballs. They were protesting against the destruction of redwood
 DM> trees in Headwaters Forest in northern California.
Didn't hear about the swabbing.
 DM> A 17-year-old protestor, whose eyelids were prised apart to apply the
 DM> spray, described feeling acute pain and burning in the eyes after the
 DM> spray was administered.
 DM> Video footage of a second incident, which took place at the Pacific
 DM> Lumber Company headquarters in nearby Scotia on 25 September, showed
 DM> two women protesters being swabbed in the eyes with liquid pepper
 DM> spray. Police sprayed a third woman in the eyes at close range.
This I heard about.  Don't think I heard the full scoop.  But then again 
National Public Radio has been taken over by corporate 'donors' who are now 
allowed a few sentences to acknowledge their public contribution.
 DM> "The increasing use of pepper spray by police departments in the US
 DM> despite conflicting studies into its safety is alarming," Amnesty
 DM> International said. "While many police departments authorize the spray
 DM> only if officers face a serious physical threat, we are receiving
 DM> increasing reports of its misuse -- such as against suspects after they
 DM> were already restrained or against peaceful demonstrators."
Plastic handcuffs are even worse for their abusiveness than old metal ones.
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