-=> ROSS CASSELL wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 RC> Hello WAYNE!

 RC> 03 May 10 00:56, you wrote to me:

 RC>> Wayne seems to think the command lines on the x/k/u-buntu
 RC>> versions are somehow less capable.

 WC> Really?
 WC> I hadn't known I'd ever had Linux experience prior to Knoppix 3.4 -
 WC> 4.0 for two months and then Slackware.


 RC> What would have ever made you think the commandlines of one
 RC> distribution is different from another, especially with the most
 RC> popular shell in use, ie BASH?

Uh because some of the very important ones ARE!

Try rm filename on knoppix, it'll ask "are you sure you want to delete
this file? y/n"

IOW's rm -i in Slackware.

Not knowing this one little alias for rm in Knoppix wiped out my OS
one time transitioning form one to another.

Unlike you I do NOT offer advice not knowing what I'm talking about
such as your catostrophic advice as to removing the video card and rebooting 
linux Slackware before you admiitted to Maurice you were actually trying it
for the first time.

Then you berated me for not being able to follow the advice, "remove video
card"
"reboot" as to complex for me to understand.

 WC> You?
 WC> Not so much.

 RC> I never claimed to be a teacher, nor do I require groupies.


I see you've a couple of Chihuahuas' nipping around your heels.

 WC> I mean claiming I couldn't follow your directions to remove
 WC> the video card and reboot which I'd presumed would fry the software
 WC> and did in fact worse than anything I'd previously experienced.

 RC> I never claimed you couldnt do that, I merely suggested that you remove
 RC> the last known common denominator to check and see if that was or was
 RC> not the cause of the issue.

THAT caused issues.
Serious and catastrophic issues.
System disabling issues.
In fact the worst issues I've EVER faced in any instance with Linux Slackware.

 RC> Then you went on a three week tangent blaming me for your decision to
 RC> have freely declined or accepted that suggestion.. Which the suggestion
 RC> wasnt malicious, its a classic troubleshooting technique, you find out
 RC> the point an issue started, an eliminate possible causes..
 RC> You being the self-professed dialectic critical thinker, had to have
 RC> agreed with the suggestion, else you would not have tried it.

 RC> Troubleshooting 101:

 RC> * What happened or what were you doing when the problem started?

 RC> * Hardware added or removed?

 RC> * Software added or removed?

 RC> * Setting added, removed or altered?

Well let's just agree I will not be taking any of your advice in future.
Someoine went to bat for you private email that you were well
intentioned but underinformed.

I don't know which side of that equation to fall on.

Demonstrably you enjoy kicking a man when he's down.
Stroked as I was formerly.

 RC> One goes back to such a point, reverses the possible action, even if
 RC> only temporary, to see if that was the cause of the issue.

Yada, yada, yada, yip, yip, yip.

I bought TWO systems today.
An Intel dual core  a E-machine that has the identical motherboard
as does the Gateway, INTEL quality.

The other a dual core AMD 64 white box.

$42.78 for the two of them.

Ray had to prioritize his clients in front of his rehabing these
systems for sale at $175 each as he currently too busy.

 WC> Funny guy, you offered that advice before you admitted you'd even
 WC> installed Slack for the first time months later.


As above, obviously it did NOT howver equally as obviously you're 
interpratation of that differed from reality.

Oh yeah, the Intel and White box, both 64 bit and with three optical drives
between
them, $53 dollars.

They ALL boot, beyond that tomorrow awaits complete review.

Plently of keyboards and monitors, I just am two mice short of that which is
required
to fire them all up at once.

I do not believe I'll be upgrading next month, unless I do just for yucks
and if I decide to turn it around for $450 with Phoenix loaded.

 RC> That advice applies, whether the OS was Linux, Windows or otherwise..

 RC> I installed Slack on a spare box just to see why you were talking it up
 RC> as if it is the hardest thing to do, which it isnt.

 WC> IOW's you had no idea what you were talking about.

 RC> Based on your complaint, I suggested a very logical troubleshooting
 RC> step.

Which bit me in the a** just as I said it would but out
of arrogance and figuring I could fix that fiasco easily 
I was in for a bit of an unfortunate surprise in that regard.

 WC> Slackware isn't for you.

 RC> There isnt any Linux distro not for me.

 WC> Stick with Ubuntu or Phoenix, they're oversimplified.

 RC> Since you have run neither, you dont know that..

 RC> Only thing you need to know is their ISO's come with a very workable
 RC> linux setup, similiar to how knoppix did things..

Knoppix looked too much like WinBlows and basically IMO sucked unless you're
not serious about your Linux.

I did enjoy the arcade game Galaga however that's the limit.


 RC> There is not a thing you cannot do from the command line with them that
 RC> you do from slack.

 WC> I've no use for either.

 RC> Ignorance is bliss.


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