From: "Geo." 

"Joe Barr"  wrote in message
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> You mean when OS/2 did have that many users.

Whatever, I'm not going to argue it with you, but let me remind you of the
trustworthyness of the people who told you those numbers
http://www.barkto.com/canopus/aug1995/451724.txt

> That was also the time that OS/2 was outselling Windows at retail.

Oh another fun fact . Tell me what does "at retail" mean
in a world where you can't buy a new PC without windows (as you so often
liked to tell everyone)? Why don't you just claim OS/2 was outselling
Windows Kuwaiti version? 

> Of course, while you were busy watching Linux, MS was protecting its turf
> in all manner of ways to prevent anyone - even IBM - from preloading
> anything but Windows.  The sewer scum wouldn't even allow dual booting by
> any OEM as recently as last year.

And yet none of this could stop Linux.

> And there you sit, George, and proclaim that with Linux
> and OS/2 it was all about user demand.  That's bullshit.

It was, while IBM was claiming all sorts of corporate penetration with
OS/2, Linux was quietly winning over the hearts and minds of a generation
of geeks, at the time a bunch of high school kids who are just now getting
into positions where they affect the decisions of corp america. It is
happening exactly as I had tried to warn MS it would. (actually faster
because I never imagined IBM and the like getting behind the linux push
like they have)

> >I don't think so, at least not in todays environment.
>
> You didn't think so during the years 19950-2002 either.  But that doesn't
> change the fact that it was true.

I don't think so post the antitrust settlement.

> I think it's all they can do.  They are very much aware that they have
> already lost the war to the free software revolution.  Now it's just a
> matter of maximizing whatever profit they can squeeze out of the end days.

Maybe, there are still lots of things that can change the course. For
example a group like Eeye who decides it's time to expose the problems in
Linux could easily cause huge problems for securing linux boxes which could
do as much damage as Eeye did to NT.

> No disagreement from me.  At the time you wrote that, I had been running
> my website on Linux for two years.

I couldn't find the earlier discussions I had with Will about it. Question:
were you running your website on linux or were you just uploading your
website to someone else's server that was running linux?

Geo.

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