Hyerdahl3 wrote:
> >Subject: Re: What quality do you love most about women in general?
> >From: "bluesmama" onebluesmama{at}gmail.com
> >Date: 1/26/2005 5:12 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: 
> >
> >
> >Andre Lieven wrote:
> >> "bluesmama" (onebluesmama{at}gmail.com) writes:
> >> > Andre Lieven wrote:
> >> >> "bluesmama" (onebluesmama{at}gmail.com)
opined, ignorantly:
> >> >> > _TR_ wrote, with utter accuracy:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Pointless denial, but only to be expected:
you're still a
> >> > feminist.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > And proud of it, thanks so much.
>
> As am I.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, its quite true that many people of low
intellect can be "
proud  of
> their self inflicted infirmaties.
>
> ???  Pride in making sure women get and/or maintain, and/or enforce
equal
> rights is indeed something of which to be proud, no matter how bitter
boys
> characterise things for their own lizard brains.
>
> >> >>
> >> >> Case in point.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lets put your pride into context:
> >> >>
> >> >>  "I believe that women have a capacity for
understanding and>>
>
> compassion> which a man structurally does not have, does not have it
because
> >he>> cannot have it. He's just incapable of it." --
Former>Congresswoman
> >> >> Barbara Jordan
> >> >>
> ????  For every woman who has uttered a statement against men, there
are many
> who have done the same against  women; so what?
>
> >> >> "All men are rapists and that's all they
are" -- Marilyn
French,
> >> >> Author, "The Women's Room"
>
> Again, even feminists are entitled to their opinions, even when they
express
> their opinions in strident terms.  I am a feminist and proud to be
one.
>
> >> >> "I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and
viable political
> >act,>> >> that the oppressed have a right to
class-hatred against
the class
>  that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan, MS. Magazine Editor
> >> >
> Well, I certainly find hatred a negative influence, but everyone is
free to
> feel as they will about oppression, and clearly, she has the right to
hate men,
> if she so chooses, just as you have the right to hate women if you so
choose.
>
> >> >> "I claim that rape exists any time sexual
intercourse occurs
when
> it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own
genuine>affection and
> desire." -- Robin Morgan
>
> Yes, I agree with that.  If a woman does not consent


Maybe you are not deliberately mis-stateing the plain language
quoting Ms. Morgan saying that a woman must INITIATE a sexual encounter
for it to pass the not-rape standard. Consent, in other words, is not
enough per the quote. Maybe you are just stoned again and could not
focus your eyes.
But I always got a kick out of R. Morgans famous quote. Because the
obvious karmic payback for her idiocy would for her to be locked into a
relationship with someone who felt EXACTLY the same as her about sex
and rape. So whenever either one of them tried to initiate sex, the
other would automatically scream rape ( because they were not the one
initiating it.)
Feminists always assume, without even thinking about it, that they
will be in charge.
of her own genuine
> affection and desire, that is rape.  I'm a feminist, and proud to be
so.
> >> >>
> >> >>



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