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from: Mark Borgerson mborgerso
date: 2005-01-27 14:50:00
subject: Re: The reason for the paygap, as described by by a woman.

In article , momkulio{at}yahoo.ca says...
>
> "knoxy"  wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c62f08ef720b1129898d2{at}news.individual.net...
> > In article ,
> > momkulio{at}yahoo.ca says...
> > >
> > > "knoxy"  wrote in message
> > > news:MPG.1c6190b4f18be91d9898c6{at}news.individual.net...
> > > > In article <1106738529.698067.321440
> > >
> > > []
> > > > Whine whine whine whine whine whine whine...
> > > > that's all you so called men do in this group, besides
> > > > taking credit for what other men have done.
> > > > Jeeze, and they say women whine.
> > >
> > > It is outrageous the way men are underappreciated in this
culture.  It's
> a
> > > good thing that some men are talking about it and refusing
to be shamed
> into
> > > silence.
> > >
> > > Jayne
> > >
> > So you think all men should take credit for what some
> > men do? And believe me, I appreciate the men who deserve
> > appreciation (imo), there's very few of them in this
> > group though.
>
> In my experience, there is a negative attitude about men in general.  Do you
> realize there is a book called "All Men are Jerks"?  
Imagine the uproar if
> someone had written "All Women are Bitches."  Women are
beyond criticism,
> but it is considered acceptable to insult, mock and denigrate men.  This is
> wrong and I'm tired of it.

Try searching Amazon.com for "women bitch".   Among the results you will
find are:

"The Bitch in the House: 26 Women Tell the Truth About Sex, Solitude,
Work, Motherhood, and Marriage"

 "The Naked Bitch: An Honest Approach to Dating Women"


Some of the other results indicate that women are NOT above criticism.
I don't recall any particular uproar at the publication of either of
the above titles.

>
> I want to see men in general treated with respect and appreciation as well
> as recognizing specific accomplishments of individual men.   As for this
> newsgroup, I appreciate most of the men here.  They have been very helpful
> to me as I've been learning about men's issues.

Excellent goals--and you have set a good example by treating others with
some respect.
>
> Jayne
>
>
>
Mark Borgerson



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