MS>> Or just cutting class, which is _definitely_ considered as being a
 MS>> "discipline problem" at the HS level!
 MS>> Absenteeism due to excessive partying is the biggest discipline
 MS>> problem college profs face.
 VB>  When I was in college, most profs just gave no credit for work for
 VB>  these students and went on with teaching those students that went to
 VB>  class. Unlike high school, college students are more considered
 VB>  adults and are not as coddled.
Hey, if ditching by hangover is the biggest problem professors see (or
*don't see* since the students aren't there,) for crying out loud, give
me loads of college students!!!  Occasionally, I'm grateful that certain
less than enthusiastic learners choose to manifest themselves physically
elsewhere.  The only thing I really used to hate about ditchers is all
the paperwork I had to fill out when a kid was AWOL.  A City of Phoenix
program has eliminated much of that for us.
Funny thing, **every** post-secondary school I've attended here in AZ
(junior college, university, grad school) has stressed its attendance
policy prior to registration.  The profs almost always list attendance &
punctuality as comprising part of the grade & detail how the number will
affect the final grade.  Two summers ago, one prof even counted
tardiness to lower grades.  The only classes I took at ASU as an
undergrad in which attendance wasn't even taken were a couple of
education lectures which had close to 300 students enrolled.  All the
others took roll & counted it.
According to the syllabus of the last class I took, the prof lowered the
final grade by one letter grade for being absent more than once (we had
nine class meetings of 5 hours each.)  And FWIW, I NEVER saw a single
student demonstrate evidence, by word or deed, of being intoxicated.
Leona Payne
... The truth may be out there, but some folks are avoiding it like the 
plague.
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