AWL> [Later] Oh Goddess, he wants to put it *before* the origin line.
AWL> Argh! The origin line is part of the user stuff, not header/footer
AWL> stuff (lots

Thats mad. Its in fact not be entered by the user, its mostly just
yet another abortion of a data structure design, header stuff which
ends up in what purports to be user text.

Ditto taglines too. They may be actually selected by the user, but they
arent true user text in the sense of being the body of the message. And
the other reason they shouldnt be treated as user text is because you
want to be able to auto identify that stuff for tagline stealing etc.

And you want to allow the mail reader to be able to identify all that
crap easily, say for example you might want to have a user config option
where all that stuff is displayed on its own screen if you dont normally
bother with it and would prefer more simultaneously visible lines of true
user text.

Ditto for the address in the origin line, automatic netmail needs
to have the source address easily broken out coz it needs it for
the netmail destination address. You need to be able to instead
of just replying have say a Reply by Netmail keystroke. And if that
stuff is just lumped in with the true user text its a fucked abortion.

AWL> -+-
AWL> + Origin: Elfwhere - the POINty eared POINt (3:640/450.2379)

PE> You mean you type this every single time in all of your messages?
PE> Unless you do, you have very little concept of what "user stuff" is.

FM> I had a thought today...

I dont believe that, yuppies dont have thoughts, those illegal substances
they abuse prevent that |-)

FM> do you regard (continued to next message) and
FM> (continued from previous message) as "user stuff"?

Strictly speaking not, coz the mail reader auto puts that stuff on
and if for example you want to have a fancy mail reader which auto
combines multipart messages back to their original long form in one
message before you even see any message, coz you can read long ones,
you want to be able to auto drop that crap which is no longer relevant.
And its harder to detect it if mail readers can use their imagination
on how they do that stuff.

FM> If not (which I expect you to say if you're consistent),

True.

FM> where does your software put the ^ASOT & ^AEOT wrt those lines?
FM> Say in a Rod Speed message if he upgraded PQWK?

The will actually end up as user text coz the chopping and addition
of that stuff happens before PQWK sees it, and hence PQWK knows
nuffin about it. Life wasnt meant to be rigorously consistent |-)

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