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from: Greg1199{at}yahoo.Com
date: 2005-01-27 18:49:00
subject: Re: Humanists and Atheists Are ORGANIZING fellas!

Hyerdahl3 wrote:
> >Subject: Re: Humanists and Atheists Are ORGANIZING fellas!
> >From: greg1199{at}yahoo.com
> >Date: 1/3/2005 2:01 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: 
> >
> >Hyerdahl1 wrote:
> >
> >> Humanists and Atheists Are ORGANIZING fellas!
> >
> >Organizing for what?  To not believe in God?  Well there's > >a
reason to gather.
> >
> Actually,

Incoming lie...

> it's about making sure we don't mix church and state.

What indication do you have that they will be mixed if not for your
efforts?

> As more and more folks join these organizations, they will
> lobby to prevent Christians from
> forcing their view on the rest of us.

Against what specifically will you lobby?  And how do Christians try to
force their values on you?  Which values are they forcing?  Try writing
something meaningful instead of clucking out this vague, meaningless
tripe.

> >This is like a nihilist march, done to espouse their belief > >in
.....nothing.
>
> Actually,

Incoming!!!

> atheists and humanists have a set of "beliefs" that support > the
non-mixing

Non-mixing.  Do you mean separation?

> of church and state.  They can, if they so choose, turn THAT > into a
religion.

They would hardly be the inventors of statism.

> >> Your time, under patriarchy is going bye-bye!
> >
> >We don't seek patriarchy, bitter grrl.  We seek freedom.

> You HAVE freedom, hon, and so do I.

Really!  Well then I guess I'll go screw some woman and walk off.
Since I have freedom, and since the valiant humanists of America will
stop others from imposing their moral values on me, I'll just tell her
to piss off when she comes begging for child support.

> I think both of us should have it, but

Bullshit.  You'll gladly take my taxes to support your dumbshit social
programs.  You'd gladly force me into fatherhood, and then you'd gladly
isolate me from my kids, if I had them.  Your ideology (feminism) is
practically based on regulating men, and you're telling me that you
want me to be free?  Give it a rest, Hilda.

> many Christians only want freedom for themselves.  Perhaps
> that is what separates us the most, eh?

Perhaps you'll tell us which Christians are trying to institute
involuntary servitude for non-Christians, eh?  Perhaps you'll tell us
which Christians seek a theocracy, eh?  (Note, the Branch Davidians
don't count.)

What separates you and I is that I think clearly, and you are a moron.


> You seek to
> deny it to us.
>
> Not at all.

Note Lefty-ism.  Only Carol Ann Worstall Hemingway could have written
this, perhaps from Manitoba.

> I have no objection to you being able to worship in your
> place of worship.

Perhaps not, but both you and the article breathlessly tell us that the
President of the United States  goes to church!!  Oh, the horror!
The humanity!  Imagine, our first ever non-athiest President!!!  I ...

Wait, all the previous Presidents were also Christian.  Why are they
complaining about Bush?

> If you don't pray in my school, I won't THINK in your
> church.  :-)

Well you don't think anywhere else either, so that isn't much of an
offer.

If you forbid someone from praying at school, of his own volition, you
violate his Constitutional right to the free exercise of religion.
This is a _real_ Constitutional violation, as opposed to a violation of
the "separation of church and state" that you _think_ is in the
Constitution.

> You don't even like us talking about the pursuit of
> freedom, which is why you> harass us where we gather on the > net,
you overbearing ox.
>
> No mixing of church and state, dearie.

Well thanks for the news flash, Tom Brokaw.  I thought we had an
Ayatolla in the White House.

> It's coming to your neighborhood soon.
> Get your god out of my govt. or you may find my goddess on
> your doorstep.  :-)

I could just as easily meet your goddess by missing the April 15th tax
deadline.  God doesn't hold elected office, so I can't get him out.

Oh, wait, you mean that I should vote for the far-left candidate lest I
find your dreaded goddess at my door.  Bring her on.



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