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Replying to a message of Roy Witt to Bob Ackley: RW> 14 Apr 09 03:48, Bob Ackley wrote to Roy Witt: RW>>> offered to surrender. This was thru the Swiss government, who RW>>> informed the US government. The Japanese also agreed to the RW>>> surrender as posed in the Potsdam agreement in the same message. RW>>> Apparently already aprised of the contents by the Swiss. RW>>> You can read a copy of it here. RW>>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/policy/1945/450810a.html BA>> I don't do Internet and in any case I don't dispute that the Japanese BA>> offered unconditional surrender after the Nagasaki blast. RW> They ignored the Hiroshima blast? No. BA>> What I said was that the Japanese wanted to open surrender BA>> negotiations a couple of months *before* the Hiroshima bomb was BA>> dropped, and that Stalin chose not to pass the message along to his BA>> allies. RW> Actually, that happened on August 8th, and it wasn't Stalin who made RW> that decision, it was Molotov and then given to the Japanese RW> Ambassador to transmit to Japan... No, Roy, it happened in July of 1945. "American cryptanalysts, who usually strove to win battles, worked to make peace when they solved Japanese messages that indicated Japan's desire to quit the war before the atomic bombs had devastated her and opened the era of nuclear war. Through the formation of a new cabinet in April, 1945, implied a mandate to seek peace, the United States obtained the first concrete evidence of the desire on July 13. On that date, President Truman and other high American officials read an instruction of Foreign Minister Shigenori Togo to his ambassador in Moscow, Nasatake Sato. Togo urged Sato to see the Soviet Foreign Minister before the Big Three conference at Potsdam and tell him of the Emperor's strong desire to end the war. Explain, Togo said, that the only real obstacle to peace was the Allies' demand for unconditional surrender. If this were insisted upon, he said, Japan would have to continue the fight. The implication was that another surrender formula might bring peace. "In the next few days additional messages were intercepted and read that threw further light on Japanese intentions. They verified the view of many experts on Japan that a promise to preserve the Emperor would open the way to a surrender which in most other respects would be unconditional." The 'Big Three' then modified their demand from unconditional surrender to unconditional surrender of Japan's military. Japan did not accept because the Allies' terms did not promise the retention of the Emperor. I was in error in thinking that there was a delay in the decryption and translation of intercepted Japanese diplomatic traffic. Above quotes excerpted from David Kahn, "The Codebreakers," page 610. --- FleetStreet 1.19+* Origin: Bob's Boneyard, Emerson, Iowa (1:300/3) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 18/200 34/999 120/228 123/500 128/2 140/1 226/0 236/150 SEEN-BY: 249/303 250/306 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1410 1418 266/1413 SEEN-BY: 280/1027 633/260 267 712/848 800/432 2222/700 2320/100 105 200 2905/0 @PATH: 300/3 14/5 140/1 261/38 633/260 267 |
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