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Replying to a message of Earl Croasmun to Bob Ackley: EC> ~> BA>> I don't do Internet and in any case I don't dispute that the EC> Japanese ~> BA>> offered unconditional surrender after the Nagasaki EC> blast. What I ~> BA>> said was that the Japanese wanted to open EC> surrender negotiations a ~> BA>> couple of months *before* the EC> Hiroshima bomb was dropped, and that ~> BA>> Stalin chose not to EC> pass the message along to his allies. EC> ~> MG> I'm highly suspect of whatever resource you got that factoid EC> from. EC> ~> That *fact* came from David Kahn's book 'The Codebreakers,' EC> published in ~> 1966 with a second edition published in the 1990s. I EC> have both editions. ~> Mr. Kahn is an acknowledged authority on code EC> breaking - the book goes back ~> centuries and works right up to the EC> 1960s - and on US efforts in that regard. EC> I didn't think there was much controversy that Japan was at that point EC> ready to NEGOTIATE a possible surrender. But it wasn't ready to EC> unconditionally surrender, and Truman would accept nothing less. That was in fact the sticking point as I noted in another message. The US *was* reading that Japaneser diplomatic traffic in real time. I think there was insufficient time between the Allies' decision to slightly modify the 'unconditional surrender' demand (to 'unconditional surrender' of Japan's military) for the Japanese government to respond. The main problem seems to have been that the Allies did not guarantee that the Japanese emperor would be left in power. In any case Japan was incapable of doing *anything* at that point. She was an island nation with no remaining commerce, her vaunted 'Kwantung Army' had been stripped and the troops sent to defend islands that the US bypassed (and many of them were drowned when the ships carrying them were sunk). Two thirds of Japan's shipping capacity had been sunk (along with most of her navy) and the rest of it was hiding in ports still controlled by Japan. Very little was getting through the US blockade of the islands and certainly not enough to maintain either Japan's population or its remaining military. Japan's navy was reduced to one old, damaged battleship, a few destroyers and a couple of dozen (very good) submarines in the home waters and a small fleet of cruisers and destroyers at Singapore. All but a very few of Japan's experienced pilots had been killed. While Japan does have a native supply of coal it does not have a native supply of oil. The US could have sat back and literally starved Japan into submission, but that would have taken at least a year. --- FleetStreet 1.19+* Origin: Bob's Boneyard, Emerson, Iowa (1:300/3) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 18/200 34/999 120/228 123/500 128/2 140/1 226/0 236/150 SEEN-BY: 249/303 250/306 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1410 1418 266/1413 SEEN-BY: 280/1027 633/260 267 712/848 800/432 2222/700 2320/100 105 200 2905/0 @PATH: 300/3 14/5 140/1 261/38 633/260 267 |
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