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echo: crossfire
to: Jeff Snyder
from: Ross Cassell
date: 2009-04-23 09:55:14
subject: Preaching

Jeff Snyder -> Ross Cassell wrote:

 JS> Ross, I respect your position here as the moderator, just as I would hope
 JS> that you would respect my position as the moderator of the EDGE_ONLINE
 JS> echo.

I dont use your echo, but I do know that if the roles were reversed and I
was in your echo, questionning your ruling, you would have me banned, just
as you did a mutual acquaintance.

 JS> I will abide by your rules, but I do have a few questions and comments for
 JS> you. They are not meant to be a challenge to your authority here. I am
 JS> simply trying to understand how your mind works:

If you are rabidly adhering to your belief system. you can never understand.

 JS> 1. You stated the following:

 RC>> F. Non-Christians do not need to be made to feel any less of a
 RC>> believer because they do not practice your religion.

 JS> Then why do you allow certain Jews in this echo to try to make other people
 JS> feel less with their proud boasts of being the "chosen
ones", as if they
 JS> are
 JS> better than everyone else here?

Actually this is a what comes first, the chicken or the egg, scenario.

Their comments came about after your incessant preaching.

If I was the intolerant heathen you deem me to be, I would have said
something to them, but I didnt, but they arent preaching.

 JS> 2. You also stated:

 RC>> H. All walks of life, or all of above, are expected to respect the
 RC>> other, regardless of belief or non-belief.

 JS> So when Mimi G. outright mocks the Bible by stating that John the Revelator
 JS> was on drugs, and simply saw hallucinations, is she also not breaking your
 JS> rules? Are you also going to call her out on it publicly as you have done
 JS> with me? More specifically, she stated "The "end
times" is only John of
 JS> Patmos' LSD or silicibin (sp?) hallucinations."

The manner in which you preached and quoted your Bible is what drew First
Blood, this is something you have been doing in several echoes.

 JS> 3. You also stated:

 RC>> I do not want you giving religious testimony, sermons or quoting
 JS> scripture
 RC>> in this echo, sometimes just telling people you are a believer is
 JS> all you
 RC>> have to say.

 JS> Roy Witt quoted from the Book of Leviticus in order to show how the Bible
 JS> condemns homosexuality. Are you also going to call him out publicly on
 JS> this?
 JS> Or am I again the only one who is being singled out?

Yes you are being singled out because of the manner in which you do preach,
quote et al.

 JS> 4. Where, in any of my messages in this echo, have I even remotely tried to
 JS> force anyone to believe as I do? Sharing my personal opinions about my
 JS> faith
 JS> is forcing no one to believe anything. Others here have discussed their
 JS> faith as well.

Quoting Scripture, verbosely is doing that.

What is so difficult in saying "My Religious beliefs prevent me from
condoning gay this, that or abortion"

instead of putting in a sermon with a quote or 2 taken directly from your bible?

There is a vast difference between telling someone about religion and preaching it.

 JS> Ross, based on the above, I have a difficult time accepting that you are
 JS> being impartial in your judgments; nevertheless, it is your echo, so if
 JS> I do

The problem is Jeff, you have a hard time accepting anyone as impartial if
they do not drink the koolaid.

-- 
Ross
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