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to: Bob Ackley
from: Roy Witt
date: 2009-04-16 10:51:24
subject: Obama`s Empty Nuclear

14 Apr 09 03:48, Bob Ackley wrote to Roy Witt:

 RW>> offered to surrender. This was thru the Swiss government, who
 RW>> informed the US government. The Japanese also agreed to the
 RW>> surrender as posed in the Potsdam agreement in the same message.
 RW>> Apparently already aprised of the contents by the Swiss.

 RW>> You can read a copy of it here.

 RW>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/policy/1945/450810a.html

 BA> I don't do Internet and in any case I don't dispute that the Japanese
 BA> offered unconditional surrender after the Nagasaki blast.

They ignored the Hiroshima blast?

 BA> What I said was that the Japanese wanted to open surrender
 BA> negotiations a couple of months *before* the Hiroshima bomb was
 BA> dropped, and that Stalin chose not to pass the message along to his
 BA> allies.

Actually, that happened on August 8th, and it wasn't Stalin who made that
decision, it was Molotov and then given to the Japanese Ambassador to
transmit to Japan...

quote:

 DECLARATION BY THE U.S.S.R. OF A STATE OF WAR WITH JAPAN

August 8, 1945

Information Bulletin, Embassy of the U.S.S.R.

On August 8 Foreign Commissar of the U.S.S.R. Comrade Molotov received
Japanese Ambassador Sato and in the name of the Soviet Government gave him
the following statement for transmission to the Government of Japan:

After the defeat and capitulation of Hitlerite Germany, Japan remained the
only great power which still stands for the continuation of the war.

The demand of the three powers, the United States, Great Britain and
China, of July 26 for the unconditional surrender of the Japanese armed
forces was rejected by Japan. Thus the proposal made by the Japanese
Government to the Soviet Union for mediation in the Far East has lost all
foundation.

Taking into account the refusal of Japan to capitulate, the Allies
approached the Soviet Government with a proposal to join the war against
Japanese aggression and thus shorten the duration of the war, reduce the
number of casualties and contribute toward the most speedy restoration of
peace.

True to its obligation as an Ally, the Soviet Government has accepted the
proposal of the Allies and has joined in the declaration of the Allied
powers of July 26.

The Soviet Government considers that this policy is the only means able to
bring peace nearer, to free the people from further sacrifice and
suffering and to give the Japanese people the opportunity of avoiding the
danger of destruction suffered by Germany after her refusal to accept
unconditional surrender.

In view of the above, the Soviet Government declares that from tomorrow;
that is from August 9, the Soviet Union will consider herself in a state
of war against Japan.

/quote:

After this, the Japanese went through Switzerland to end the war on the
9th.

                R\%/itt




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