Hello Geo.

Jueves 06 Marzo 2003 19:48, you wrote to Adam Flinton:


 G> Last time we upgraded our RS6000 I wanted to transfer the OS from the
 G> old one to the new one but IBM doesn't do that, you have to buy the OS
 G> with the machine. I complained, they gave me the new version of AIX
 G> for free in order to sell me the hardware. 96 user license no less..

 G> Geo.

 G> "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
 G> news:3e670e33{at}w3.nls.net...
 >> Aww come on.......why buy the machines from IBM? The whole thing is
 >> tied
 G> in
 >> together.
 >>
 >> eg. how much (if any) does IBM make from sales of desktops? In
 >> effect it's
 G> a
 >> way of getting IBM people in & charging.
 >>
 >> it's kinda like....Solaris + Oracle or AIX + DB2. Sure Solaris & AIX
 >> only run on the makers h/w (Solaris on Intel not setting the world
 >> on fire in sales terms). But it's an entire "stack"
that IBM look to
 >> sell (& then support, make work etc)
 >>
 >> Adam
 >>
 >> "Geo."  wrote in message
 >> news:3e668a09$1{at}w3.nls.net...
 >> > compared to hardware sales, no.
 >> >
 >> > Geo.
 >> >
 >> > "Adam Flinton" 
wrote in message
 >> > news:3e65fa88{at}w3.nls.net...
 >> > > What you don't think MQSeries, Websphere or DB2 etc makes em any
 G> money?
 >> > >
 >> > > Adam
 >> > >
 >> > > "Geo."  wrote in message
 G> news:3e65da3f$3{at}w3.nls.net...
 >> > > > Service yes, middleware only because it helps them sell
 >> > > > hardware.
 >> > > >
 >> > > > Geo.
 >> > > >
 >> > > > "Adam Flinton"
 wrote in message
 >> > > > news:3e65c11a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
 >> > > > > & middleware that sits on top of the
OS....& services to
 >> > > > > make the
 >> > whole
 >> > > > > thing work....
 >> > > > >
 >> > > > > Adam
 >> > > > >
 >> > > > > "Geo." 
wrote in message
 >> > news:3e655bdd$1{at}w3.nls.net...
 >> > > > > > If that were true how do you explain the
current love
 >> > > > > > affair IBM
 >> is
 >> > > > having
 >> > > > > > with Linux? They don't care about OS,
they only care about
 >> > > > > > what
 >> > helps
 >> > > > them
 >> > > > > > sell hardware.
 >> > > > > >
 >> > > > > > Geo.
 >> > > > > >
 >> > > > > > "Mike '/m'"
 wrote in message
 >> > > > > > news:5v386vc60ht5i2dgm145qg9ald8r1g2ljj{at}4ax.com...
 >> > > > > > > On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:42:43 -0500,
"Geo."
 >> > > > > > > 
 >> wrote:
 >> > > > > > >
 >> > > > > > > > I mean I would
 >> > > > > > > > think IBM is fairly responsive,
 >> > > > > > >
 >> > > > > > > Really?  They sold their children
because Microsoft told
 >> > > > > > > them
 G> to
 >> > do
 >> > > > so.
 >> > > > > > >
 >> > > > > > > IBM is responsive so long as it
does not jeopardize the
 >> > > > > > > MS
 >> Windows
 >> > > > > > > essential facility to the desktop,
as your example
 >> > > > > > > indicated.
 >> > > > > > >
 >> > > > > > >  /m
 >> > > > > > >
 >> > > > > >
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I gues you all writers should read "The art of comunicating with elegance" 
article. i mean this is excecive quoting you know?.

I don't know if you have a moderator here but he should tell ya all that 
quoting the necesary should save "phony" fidoneters a lot of bucks.

David

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