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to: Bill Grimsley
from: Rod Speed
date: 1995-02-20 13:39:40
subject: sticks and stones 2/2

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BG> love to see this Chief Inspector's bank accounts (all of them!).

I doubt there is any of that. I think he can basically see what the
kiddy cops are up to.

BG> Makes you wonder about some ambos and firemen too, I guess.
BG> In fact, this new program on Channel 7 (Fire) has a pyro
BG> running around Brisbane (a bloody good idea too, IMO),
BG> and it looks like it might turn out to be a fireman.

Yeah, there has always been a trickle of those.

BG> I'm not convinced there's any easy way to weed these weirdos out
BG> either, not until their peculiarities become evident at least.

Yeah, having watch some people literally go mad, I'm not convinced
that you can pick it coming. My next door neighbour was like that,
people made snide remarks about say his work history, which looked
at the time like just willful sillyness, giving up a perfectly good
job for no sensible reason. And a few remarks along the lines of
'yeah, Gary is a bit funny like that'. Turned out he was actually
coming completely off is trolley and that became unmistakable later
when he did the more dramatic stuff that no one could miss. Like
bailing up the entire highschool across the road from his house
with a fucking great knife and stabbing holes in the door of one
of the teachers cars with the teacher inside it |-)

Corse after the event its easier to look back on the earlier stuff
and realise it was just the early symptoms.

RS> Dunno, it will be interesting to see how all the Neddy Smith
RS> stuff pans out. Wouldnt surprise me in the slightest if it
RS> all comes gloriously unstuck ala the way the QLD stuff did.

BG> Well, you had Askin, Wran, Farquhar, and a few others whose
BG> names escape me right now,

And a couple of police commissioners too |-)

BG> so political corruption is endemic Australia-wide

The people who know claim that the NSW police have always been by
far the worst. Just concealed it a bit better. Sounds plausible.

RS> In some ways NSW has always been worse with attempted
RS> executions of other cops by cops. Let alone ACT police
RS> commissioners becoming ex police commissioners as JC would say.

BG> Was anybody ever indicted over the Colin Winchester assassination?

Nah, they thought the public servant dun it, but I doubt it.
Never managed to prove it and since it was a classic mafia
style execution, and Winchester was personally involved in
the pot growing on purpose, looks awful mafia like to me.

RS> Particularly with Don Mackay, its a pretty clear case of
RS> accidentally on purpose letting the information leak out which
RS> results in the system taking its course to the inevitable corpse.

BG> I wonder to what extent the police were involved in MacKay's
BG> killing though,

Like I say, the cops accidentally on purpose allowed the evidence that
Don Mackay had reported one of the biggest local pot growing schemes to
the cops to come out in the trial. Don was kicking up a big stink about
how the local mafia were getting off almost completely scot free even
if caught on pot growing. As a result of that someone told him of that
massive Colyambally crop. He told the cops. During that trial, the cops
notebook accidentally allowed the defense lawyer to see who the
informant was the cops had heard about it from. Bye bye Don.

The senior cops were even having a big dinner at the biggest of
the restaurants in town that night, with the local mafia names like
Trimbole and Tony Sergi on the night he was executed, a Friday evening.
Provide the name, provide a cast iron alibi, great service what ?

It remains to be seen if the one who got locked up for it even
actually did it. Extremely suspicious that no body was ever found,
he literally vanished. Maybe that was another service, 'hey boy, how
about you go to jail for a couple of years and we pay you xxxx, so
these silly buggers stop looking for who dunit and get off our back'

BG> as it took ages for anybody to implicate Robert Trimbole, and even
BG> then, although there appears to be very little doubt that he was
BG> involved at a very high level, the evidence was not forthcoming.

Yeah, lots of that stuff.

BG> More interestingly, I wonder how long they stay posted there,
BG> considering the potential for corruption by the drug bosses?

RS> The ones involved in that sort of area can stay there for
RS> absolutely ages, like 20 years or something that some of
RS> the more senior ones like the licensing sargent did.

BG> 20 years in the Licensing branch?  You're joking.

I had the same reaction. Bloody great house too.

BG> Common sense would suggest that he could be nothing but totally
BG> corrupt then.

True. But then there is quite a bit of evidence that the senior
investigating cop who investigated Dons assassination was part of
it too, forget his name for the moment, very tall gangly fellow
with an unusual name.

RS> Corse a lot of the ones around when Mackay got executed were
RS> disposed of eventually, most actually leaving the police force.

BG> Because of embarrassment, shame, or guilt?

None of the above basically most of them.

RS> Not at all easy workout whats actually going on between the lines,
RS> so far he appears to have just got away with a severe reprimand.

BG> Trouble is, to prosecute a serving copper for corruption would bring
BG> disrepute and shame to the entire service, and just like up here now,
BG> I suspect they'd prefer to keep it in house, lest they lose whatever
BG> vestige of public confidence remains.

Yeah, and even with ones like Rogerson, they can take some shifting.

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