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to: Bill Grimsley
from: Rod Speed
date: 1995-02-20 13:39:38
subject: sticks and stones 1/2

RS> I actually knew him first when he must have been about 15, kicked
RS> out of school quite soon after. He always was a right loony, I
RS> remember the first time I saw him he had a massive collection of
RS> burns down the inside of each arm as a result insane games involved
RS> in seeing who could hold a lighted cigarette like that longest.

BG> Presumably you knew that this used to be a favourite, almost
BG> prescribed test of manhood with genuine Maifioso in the US
BG> earlier this century (and even these days, it would seem)?

This one hasnt got any mafia connections in the literal sense. In
fact even has a black relo, mother of his grandmother or something.
Which comes in handy apparently now.

RS> I thought at the time that we had a right loony here.

BG> And who am I to argue?  There has actually been some suggestion
BG> that people like these are suffering from a specific genetic
BG> abnormality, something to do with a chromosome completely missing
BG> from the gene, I seem to recall, but whilst the evidence points
BG> towards this being possible, I've seen no conclusive proof so far.

Yeah, wouldnt surprise me. I think we are actually seeing a bit
of an odd outcome in human society in many ways. In prior times
those sorts of people could just become pirates or mercenarys etc.
Nowadays we just pay them welfare and have to watch some pretty
unspeakable outcomes instead.

RS> Surprised he's actually lasted so long actually, he's
RS> 34 now, wife and two kids. Never actually worked a day
RS> in his life, paid a total of $2.50 in tax apparently.

BG> Perhaps he'll end up like Capone then, put away for tax evasion
BG> because the coppers had no evidence that he was a crime boss.

They have the evidence all right. He has been going thru the courts
for quite a few years on a drug bust. No results so far incarceration
wise. Its a hell of a saga actually.

RS> Fascinating commentary on how society treats the dregs like
RS> that in some ways. He got kicked out of school for being a
RS> total loony, he is literally a psychopath with quite visible
RS> manifestations of it like that even in those days. I think he
RS> got chucked out for a punchup with a teacher or something, forget.

BG> The only thing that's changed though is that nowadays, kids like
BG> that can get the dole or Austudy (or WTF you like to call it),

How do you think he has existed for the last 20 years ? Dole
and currently Austudy. Training to be a lawyer would you believe,
external law degree.

BG> and at a much earlier age than ever before.

About the only thing thats changed lately is the homeless kids allowance.

BG> Fucking amazing, when stuff like this has obviously been going on for
BG> half a century or even more. It's social engineering at its worst IMO.

Dunno about social engineering, utterly rorted welfare system anyway.

RS> He is now doing an external law degree from UNE in Armidale.

BG> ROFL!  Wants to conduct his own defence presumably.

He's actually got grand plans involving becoming a legal aid lawyer.
He has been largely running his own defense without counsel all these
years since the drug bust and has been running rings around the legal
system, appeals right up to the Supreme Court and all. Unbelievable.

RS> He'd actually make a hell of a lawyer if it wasnt for his insanity,
RS> fantastic memory for the law, he can basically quote you great
RS> chunks of the Criminal Justice Act right out of his head and cite
RS> appeals court judgements etc. Far better than any of the real
RS> lawyers I know too, including magistrates.

BG> We all know that some of the world's greatest geniuses have also been
BG> amongst the most loony and totally tyrannical leaders we've ever seen.

Yeah, and its a hell of a commentary on society that it didnt
manage to notice any of that stuff. The legal system has sure
noticed it now tho, bit hard to miss |-)

BG> There has been an emerging pattern of this for centuries,
BG> and it would be extremely interesting to use genetic
BG> science to see why this should so frequently be the case.

I think the answer is pretty simple. You get some rather bizarre
outcomes like that from people who essentially are outside societys
control mechanisms. Thats also whats rewarded with some of the
'genius' stuff. Some are close to barking mad like Tesla. Charles
Darwin wasnt a lot better.

RS> Quite interesting in some ways, he apparently has one of the
RS> magistrates who enjoys having weekly joust during the 'Chamber
RS> Magistrate' sessions that all the courts have. They apparently
RS> thrash over some made up case etc for an hour or two with all
RS> the others sitting outside waiting for their session with the
RS> magistrate. Presumably the magistrate finds it gives a lift to
RS> the week or something.

BG> Perhaps he just likes to hear legal opinion from the other side
BG> of the fence?

Wouldnt be surprised if does actually find it very stimulating. He
certainly knows his law in a way few magistrates do, judges even. Add
the layer of insanity on top of that and its quite attention grabbing.

BG> He'd likely never get to use his new found knowledge though, as
BG> I doubt that this particular magistrate would be allowed to sit on
BG> the bench at your loony Mafia mate's obviously forthcoming trial.  |-)

Apparently its most at the decision of the defendant, he can please
himself. He is currently up on a drunk driving charge, and no license,
and is trying to run some complicated argument that a defense of
automatism reverses the onus of proof, its up to the crown to prove
he doesnt suffer from it. Apparently the act says that explicitly.

He was up for mention the other day, with the magistrate he has
appealed right up to the Supreme Court. Apparently they have had
some pretty bitter runins on that. The magistrate asked him if he
wanted him to disbar himself but the drug baron said he didnt mind,
mainly on the devil you know principle.

He's also got some complicated scheme running to shaft them for costs
if they lose, on the basis that they should have realise that their
case was defective by now and so if they go ahead anyway, they will
have to pay when they lose.

God knows what this bugger has cost the state quite apart from
welfare payments over the years in the court system alone.

RS> Wouldnt surprise me in the slightest to see him in the
RS> paper having been shot. Perfect excuse too actually
RS> given him being a pretty obvious psychopath etc too.

RS> I've spoken to him again the other night since I wrote that
RS> and it certainly looks like some of the cops are attempting
RS> to ride him hard enough get him to react and then shoot him.

BG> Charming.

RS> Tho he claims they have been told to lay off by the chief inspector.

BG> True, why kill the goose that lays the golden egg?  I'd really

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