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from: Mark Borgerson mborgerso
date: 2005-01-28 13:21:00
subject: Re: The reason for the paygap, as described by by a woman.

In article , dg411{at}FreeNet.Carleton.CA 
says...
> 
> knoxy (knoxy{at}post.com) displayed her misandry:
> > In article , dg411
> > {at}FreeNet.Carleton.CA says...
> >> 
> >> "lukne" (laurann{at}sprintmail.com) writes:
> >> > Ian wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Opinion/Men-in-trouble-now-that-even-their-sperm-isnt-necessary/2005/01/18/1105810914296.html?oneclick=true
> >> >>
> >> >> Good article, from Angry Harry.
> >> >>
> >> >> "The world does not need more celebrities, more
academics or more
> >> >> graduates with big debts racing off overseas for a
gap year before
> >> >> returning to work in a bar. What the world needs is
more people who
> >> >> know how to make and maintain things that run our lives.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's not DIY, The Good Life or even Backyard Blitz.
It's just men who
> >> >> do stuff - building, fixing, knocking down, taking
away, rerouting,
> >> >> unravelling, dismantling, unearthing - that help keep a whole
> >> >> community, not just a private home, alive."
> >> >>
> >> >> I think men should be encouraged to take women who
whine on about
> >> > equal
> >> >> rights, and put them in tea crates where they are
shipped off to the
> >> >> Australian Outback. They can come back home to
Islington, (and I
> >> > guess
> >> >> Shoreditch) only when they realise that the roads
they walk on, the
> >> >> houses they live in, and the water in the tap aren't
maintained by
> >> >> magic.
> >> >>
> >> >> To all the feminists out there reading this. If you
disagree, I want
> >> >> you to go off to Africa, and build a replica of New
York city, or
> >> >> London, as was done by men.
> >> >>
> >> >> If that's too difficult, just build an office block
300 metres high.
> >> >>
> >> >> If that's too difficult, just build an Office with
working satellite
> >> >> internet access.
> >> >>
> >> >> If that's too difficult just build a car.
> >> >>
> >> >> If that's too difficult, just build a petrol pump.
> >> >>
> >> >> If that's too difficult, just make a vulcanised tyre, or a z80
> >> >> processor to control the petrol pump.
> >> >>
> >> >> If that's too difficult, just make the polythene for
the tyre, or the
> >> >> silicon platter for the processor.
> >> >>
> >> >> If that's too difficult, just make pure silicon.
> >> >>
> >> >> If that's too difficult, just defend the land from communists.
> >> >> Got the reason why there's a paygap yet, Patricia Hewitt?
> >> > 
> >> > So you want us women to give you men credit for all the
great things
> >> > you've created in the world?  Sure, I'll do that.  Thank you men! 
> >> 
> >> One thing: Since the good that men have built, covers so many matters,
> >> and offers everyone, men, women, and children, alike, and
" equally ",
> >> benefits that would simply not exist, without them, one
little " Thank
> >> you " ain't gonna do it. Gratitude needs to be a bit
more than a wife
> >> might demand for her having microwaved dinner...
> >> 
> > I'd like to thank 'the' men that did all that good. 
> 
> But, you have yet to DO so...
> 
> > You're not included on that list, so you can just fuck 
> > off when you try to take credit for what other men have 
> > done.
> 
> OK: So, since you also have done bupkis, then you can also 
> " fuck off ".
>  
> >> And, while we could do the men do good and evil dance all day,
> >> what makes our points right, is that FEW men do evil, and MANY
> >> men do good.
> >> 
> >> Heres one example: 9/11- 19 evil men. At least 243 ( dead )
> >> fireMEN...
> >> 
> >> > But
> >> > you must also take personal responsibility for all the
terrible things
> >> > you've created too such as: two world wars and zillions of others;
> >> 
> >> " zillions " ? Retake math class, and, this time... pass it.
> >> 
> >> Again, lets be clear about this. Much evil that is done, is done not
> >> in the name of " men ", but in the name of "
special interest group
> >> A ", as in " Feminism ". 
> >> 
> >> > nuclear weapons; other weapons of mass distruction; incredible
> >> > suffering under MALE dictators like Stalin, Hitler,
Chairman Mao, Idi
> >> > Amin, etc.; slavery; colonialism; South African
Apartheid; communism;
> >> > global warming; and disco music.  Ready yet?
> >> 
> >> Yep. Because, next to all that, the good and the GREAT that men do,
> >> beats the crap out of it. The proof of that is that you are not
> >> trying to post to the Illegalnet, from a concentration camp on the
> >> former Soviet border...
> >> 
> >> Now, as to great things: Get a copy of " From The Earth To The
> >> Moon ", DVD, HBO, on the 1960s US space program, and watch real
> >> closely to the morals of the people, who were real people, who
> >> made it all happen.  
> >> 
> >> Male greats, including FDR, Churchill, weapons of mass destruction
> >> NOT used, Einstein, Stephen Hawking, Alexander Graham Bell, Edison,
> >> and so on, freedom, post-colonialism, South African reconciliation
> >> ( Nelson Mandells, a man, you know ), the death of communism, not
> >> to mention men who finished off Fascism, at a personal cost in the
> >> millions of men, research into climate change ( Did you know that
> >> we're past due for the next Ice Age ? ), and classic rock.
> >> 
> >> Yeah, I'm more than ready. Heck, I'd say that theres a pretty
> >> good correlation between the feminisation of western culture,
> >> and the ( hopefully temporary ) end of manned deep space 
> >> exploration. 'Cause it wasn't very... safe, and modern feminised
> >> society demands that we be as safe as when we're with mommy...
> >> 
> >> But, to do great things, you have accept some... risk.
> >> 
> >> How many women discovered new lands, again ?
> 
> No answer ? That must mean that NO woman ever accomplished
> such a thing.
> 
> Thanks for *proving* my point...
> 
> 
Andre:  You've forgotten Sagan's rule:        

 "The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

Logic Error!   Proof fails!  



Mark Borgerson







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