Hyerdahl3 wrote:
> >Subject: Re: More Lesbians; More Choices for Women
> >From: Mark Sobolewski mark_sobolewski{at}yahoo.com
> >Date: 1/9/2005 3:19 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id:

> >
> (edit)
>
> >> >Anyway, back to choices: Heterosexual women are certainly not
jumping>>
> >with joy over the prospect of lesbian marriage or childbearing
> >>
> How would gay marriage effect het marriage at all?

Indeed.  That's my point!

It doesn't have any positive effect for "het" marriage.  Feminism and
leftism are out of touch with a majority of women's needs and this
is showing up at the ballot box.

> >> This is one of the dirty secrets of feminism, at least one that
escapes so
> many heterosexual women.
>
> So, you seem to agree with me that het women aren't at all bothered
about
> lesbianism.  Thanks for acknowledging that.  :-)
>
> Feminists need all women to believe that feminism helps them because
> homosexuals as a whole represent only 1 to maybe 2 percent of the
population.
>
> Well, in a sane world, the Bill of Rights would already serve to
protect
> homosexuals so they would already have the same rights hets have to
marry the
> person of their choice.  But feminism has fought for women's rights
long before
> anyone even knew about homosexuality on a political level.

HAHAHAHA!

Indeed: Feminism was about lesbianism long before they came "out" and
admitted
so politically.  That now turns out to be a big mistake.  4 more years!

> Lesbians are an even smaller number of the population.
>
> Again, heterosexual women don't fear homosexual women marrying.
There's
> nothing there for them TO fear.   Those who are bellyaching the most
are those
> white men who fear the gay teletubby. :-)

And a majority of the voters who voted for ballot initiatives when
presented.

Yep, keep it up.

>   So feminists pander to the> greed factor in heterosexual women by
looking for
> "legal" ways to give> those women unearned money
>
> ????  Last time I checked,  women earn money whether or not they get
paid for
> the work they do.  Perhaps that's the real reason men fear feminism;
they fear
> no one will do the unpaid work?  :-)

Naw.  Career women now get to pay for all that work without government
socialist programs (until social security is fixed :-)

> >There's two ways they have accomplished this that need to be
addressed:
> >
> >1) There's the "fear factor": Women are flooded with
propaganda>showing women
> being beaten or abused even as the same
> >media floods them with claims that feminism empowers them
with>police
> protection at the slightest whim.
>
> ????  Women ARE the police; women are everywhere even on the force.

Yeah, I spotted a lot as bailiffs when I was serving jury duty. :-)

> Poor Mark;
> that must really bother you, the very notion of beating your Irina
and then
> having a female cop show up at your door.  :-)

Meow baby!

You really do spend a lot of time thinking about my marriage.  Howz
your partner?

>  (Whoever said>it made sense? :-)  This paradigm, obviously, is
falling apart.
> >
> Feminism is spreading all over the world now, so perhaps you are
consulting
> your 'men's way of knowing'.  :-)

Yeah, the fastest growing religion and minority group in Europe is
Islam...

> >2) Greed.  The notion that women can "double dip".  This
is>based
upon the
> "equality" notion that if men can work
> >hard for 20 years and earn a bundle of cash they can>get their
perfect mate,
> then why shouldn't women?
> >(The reason why this doesn't work for women is because the above
> >men understand they have to be PROVIDERS for the perfect
> >women they choose.)  Feminism plays upon the anger of these
> >women as they slowly realize that their dream is falling apart.
> >
> But it isn't, Mark.  Women are doing better today than ever before.
They can
> make their own dreams come true, while men like you have to spend
money going
> back and forth to Russia For Love.

Theoretically, this is possible.  As I have long observed, there are
plenty of
incredibly well-educated, attractive but financially challenged men in
other countries
who could easily marry an American woman willing to support him for
a year or two.

But that doesn't happen.  They don't have the romantic impulse to do
such a thing
as I did.

Why should I be ashamed that I value romance and love enough to go
around
the world for such an ideal?  Is that because YOU don't have the
capability
to do such a thing?  Howz your partner?

> BTW, is your wife on vacation now...back
> home?

No.  She's at work.  I'm supposed to be doing a few minutes of
vacuuming but I'm
lazy just now.

If we go on vacation, we go together because she hates traveling alone.
You know all about that, don't you?

regards,
Mark Sobolewski



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