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from: Mark Sobolewski mark_sob
date: 2005-01-30 14:05:00
subject: Re: The Slattern Single Mother

In article ,
 knoxy  wrote:

> In article  {at}news.central.cox.net>, mark_sobolewski{at}yahoo.com
> says...
> > In article ,
> >  knoxy  wrote:
> >
> > > In article , dg411
> > > {at}FreeNet.Carleton.CA says...
> > > >
> > > > knoxy (knoxy{at}post.com) proves she views women as irresponsible:
> > > > > In article ,
> > > > > Society{at}feminism.is.invalid says...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "lukne"
 barked in message
> > > > >>
news:1106789965.020959.128810{at}z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > [...] But do you really think it's right to for the
> > > > >> > man to force a woman to carry a child to term
> > > > >> > and then raise him/her?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You're worshipping an idol of your own creation
> > > > >> lukne: the strawbi*ch.  Tsk, tsk.  Andre hasn't
> > > > >> advocated that the man "force" the woman to
> > > > >> do anything, liar lukne; rather he's pointing out
> > > > >> that it's the woman who expects to force her
> > > > >> sex partners to finance her baby-lust.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > The baby grows in the woman's body making it
> > > > >> > more her decision.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Yeah, that makes killing the unborn "her
decision"
> > > > >> and her guilt, too.  How about you just come
> > > > >> straight out and admit that you are advocating
> > > > >> a double standard of giving privileges to the
> > > > >> woman and obligations of her making to the man.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > I know control freaks like you Andre,
> > > > >> > don't like that.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There you go lying again, lukne.  Despite your
> > > > >> desire to pretend otherwise, the "control
freaks"
> > > > >> are you and those like you who insist on using
> > > > >> the irresponsibility of women as an excuse for
> > > > >> imposing burdens on those women's sex partners.
> > > > >>
> > > > > Isn't the womans sex partner just as irresponsible as
> > > > > she is? You do know that a woman still need a mans sperm
> > > > > to get pregnant?
> > > >
> > > > " Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility*. "
> > > >
> > > " His body, his sperm... HIS *responsibility*. "
> > >
> > > > " Feminism: Always blame the nearest man. "
> > > >
> > > " Soc.men: Always blame the nearest woman and never take
> > > any responsibility for your own actions. "
> >
> > So using this argument, would you say that women
> > who choose to marry men who later physically abuse
> > them should take half the responsibility for
> > their choice to marry such a person?
> >
> > regards,
> > Mark Sobolewski
> >
> If you know that sperm+egg=baby

This is a pro-life argument.

> and don't want that to
> happen, don't have sex or at least use a condom. If you
> dont want to be married to an abusive husband, don't
> marry someone who has been abusive before.

Great!  Please feel free to go to a DV shelter and lecture
women about the preventive measure of not marrying
men with histories of abuse.  I'm sure they'll
really appreciate your lecture.

regards,
Mark Sobolewski


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