In article ,
 "Heidi Graw"  wrote:

> >"Men's Advocate"  wrote in message
> >news:lutnv0t3bccnihgqb4tri5vc9a43dkqd6c{at}4ax.com...
>
> > Men's Advocate wrote:
> > So IOW, he was really dealing with an undercover adult cop, not a
> > teenager. This is another case of manufacturing crime where none
> > exists. Blatant entrapment. Any lawyer worth his law degree should get
> > this thrown out of court
>
> I'm surprised to hear this being done in the US.  I know
"entrapment" is a
> legitimate police practise in Canada.  Cops routinely pose as prostititutes
> to entrap "Johns".  They pose as drug dealers.  They'll pose
as criminals to
> inflitrate various gangs.  And to catch car thieves, the cops use
"bait"
> cars.  These vehicles lock the criminal in and won't allow the thief to
> drive off.
>
> I did hear though that this sort of stuff is not allowed in the US.

Not necessarily.

There are plenty of such stings as you describe but they usually
are required to not "entice" the criminal to commit a crime.

On COPS, policewomen posing as prostitutes were required to
wear clothing they might wear out to a night on the town.
(This made them feel strange when they went out with
their husband later for dinner :-)

Do you remember DeLorean?  The FBI set up a sting where they
posed as mob financeers offering him a quick "loan" whereby
he would buy cocaine and resell it to save his car company.

They got him on video saying "This is a great idea!  I'll
get back to you later!" and walking off.  The cops waited
and waited and nothing happened and then arrested him.

He said that he never intended to go through the deal (which
is why he didn't call them back) but didn't feel comfortable
telling mobsters (as he knew them) that he wasn't interested
in their product.  He was trying to make a good exit (he claims.)
I believe him.  What's an auto executive going to do with
a suitcase full of cocaine?

> >>Investigators said that over 16 months, Rosser carefully groomed his
> >>intended
> >>victim.
>
> It's possible in the US this case could be thrown out.  In Canada, however,
> it's acceptable practise.  Our cops tempt and lead people into criminal
> activities.  That's how they earn their living.

This happens in the states as well and it's tolerated based upon
the crime or if they stay within the lines as specified above.

> I have mixed feelings about these tactics.  There should be rules about when
> to use it and when not.
>
> Heidi

regards,
Mark Sobolewski


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