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Paul Nutteing wrote: > Well 1 in 3 of the already suspicious. > http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3171380a10,00.html > Quote > Sly DNA tests show 1 in 3 dads duped > 30 January 2005 > By TIM HUME > > Hundreds of Kiwi men are paying out almost $900 for secret tests in > Australia to determine whether they are really a dad. > > And the company which runs the tests says that in one in three cases, the > man finds he's been duped. > > The men have been secretly sending samples of saliva or hair to Australian > clinic DNA Solutions because they often find the test here is blocked when > the mother won't give her consent. > > The tests are used by men who suspect they are not the child's biological > father, to disprove fatherhood of children they are paying for - and in some > cases to get access to a child they believe is theirs. > > Fathers' rights groups say the secret "motherless tests" provide vital > protection for men and children in a system where women can abuse their > position as "gatekeepers" and commit paternity fraud by concealing a child's > true father. > > "These tests are just giving people the right to know," says Bruce Tichbon, > of Families Apart Require Equality (FARE). "Fathers have a right to know, > but even more importantly, children have a right to know." > > The 20-year-old technology is reliable and affordable but paternity tests in > New Zealand are difficult to get. The only laboratory which does the tests > here, DNA Diagnostics, insists on having the mother's consent. Obtaining a > test through the courts can be cumbersome and laborious. > > FARE advised fathers to get the test done overseas. Although it could not be > presented as evidence by the courts, it would provide valuable peace of > mind. "We tell people, don't get it done here. Bugger the system, it's > bankrupt," said Tichbon. "Women used to get backstreet abortions, now men > have to get backstreet paternity tests." > > DNA Solutions, the only company to directly market its services to New > Zealand men, says it tests about 15 kiwi men a month. In 30 per cent of > cases, the samples did not match - meaning the man was not the child's > father. > > "It's our belief that men have every right to know if they are the father of > a child," said DNA Solutions spokeswoman Kate Hurford. > > The 30 per cent mark is higher than New Zealand's estimates of > "misattributed paternity" - men unwittingly raising children who are not > biologically their own. That estimate ranges from 3 per cent to 20 per cent. > > Stuart Birks, director of Massey University's Centre for Public Policy > Evaluation, said low-income men were more likely to be raising someone > else's child without knowing it. > > "Nationally, a rate of 10 per cent is highly likely, it could be as high as > 20 per cent," he said. > > He thinks tests should be carried out to confirm fatherhood at birth. > > "Surely it's better to expose it right at the start rather than waiting for > a few years when it will have an even more traumatic effect," he said. > > Tichbon believed widespread paternity testing would reveal thousands of New > Zealand men paying child support for children not biologically their own, > raising the spectre of massive child support repayments. > > The Law Commission, which is reviewing the rules of legally proving > parenthood, wants to clarify the law surrounding secret off-shore testing, > which it says has a potentially "explosive" influence. > > "We're of the view the other parent should always be informed of testing," > said commissioner Frances Joychild. "We're considering not necessarily > stopping them, but at least requiring the mother to be informed." > > She said most paternity tests were conducted privately, outside the legal > framework. The courts recommended only 32 paternity tests be conducted last > year, but more than 180 were carried out without the mother's consent by DNA > Solutions. > > Given the volatility of the subject matter, it was important for tests to be > conducted in a regulated environment with counselling and support. "It can > be immensely psychologically damaging - it's not good that this is happening > away from any legal controls." > > DNA Solutions charges $515 to $895 for paternity tests, which compare mouth > swabs or hair samples taken from the father and child. > End Quote > > Assuming genuine analysis company > Grey areas such as this attracts dodgey get-rich quick merchents > eg > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/dorset/3686864.stm > > What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles > and what Special Branch don't want you to know. > http://www.nutteing2.freeservers.com/dnapr.htm > or nutteingd in a search engine > > Valid email nutteing{at}fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots) > Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message - > it is defunct due to spam. Let us know when the secret test comes out to check if the father is dropping his DNA off somewhere other than home. --- UseNet To RIME Gateway {at} 1/31/05 2:05:23 PM ---* Origin: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn,NY, 718 692-2498, 1:278/230 (1:278/230) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 5030/786 @PATH: 278/230 10/345 106/1 2000 633/267 |
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