In article , momkulio{at}yahoo.ca says...
>
> "Andre Lieven"  wrote in message
> news:ctlqqp$6jh$1{at}theodyn.ncf.ca...
> >
> > "Jayne Kulikauskas" (momkulio{at}yahoo.ca) writes:
> > > "lukne"  wrote in message
> > > news:1107151750.698172.20890{at}f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > >>
> > >> Jayne Kulikauskas wrote:
> > >> > "S.Taylor"
 wrote in message
> > >> > news:vdcqv0pdmd673om4ndc75j3rkloj8i049b{at}4ax.com...
> > >> > > Jayne is going to take the position that she makes sex
> > >> > > with her man loving and generous
> > >> > > only out of a sense of obligation. I'm glad
she is not my wife.
> > >> >
> > >> > I think that you would feel more kindly disposed
> > >> > towards women if I were
> > >> > your wife.  And you probably wouldn't
> > >> > fantasize about sex farms so much if
> > >> > you had a woman who gave you all the sex you wanted.
> > >>
> > >> Go Jayne! Very well said.
> > >
> > > I'm afraid it was a bit disrespectful.  But I become frustrated by the
> way
> > > that Stephen rarely talks about realistic solutions to the
mistreatment
> of
> > > men.  It's not that I have anything against his sex farm fantasies (I
> kind
> > > of like them).  It's that it seems to me to take away from the
> seriousness
> > > of men's issues,
> >
> > Indeed, but thats an always present risk of freedom. That someone will
> > stand up to say silly, meaningless, or over the top outrageous things.
> >
> > I would prefer that all have the freedom to even do such things, than
> > have a situation where the freedom of a few was curtailed, for that
> > would mean that freedom wasn't a human right, but was a privilige.
> >
> > But, as with all rights, what not a lot of people get, is that they
> > come bundled with responsibilities. In this case, the responsibility to
> > the wise person is to read for context, and not ASSume that the ranters
> > with no real message, will be MS-taken for the norm.
> >
> > And, that means that wise people can make reasonable conclusions
> > about any fools who wish to make that erroneous ASSumption, such
> > that their claims can then be measured appropriately.
> >
> > Freedom for all: Feminists *hate* that. That another reason why
> > its a Good Thing(tm). 
>
> That helps me to put things in perspective.  There are people who would love
> to take away Stephen's freedom of speech and every time he writes something
> (even if I find it unrealistic) it means that those people have lost.
> Thanks for showing me the positive side of Stephen's posts, Andre.


And if you find a person's posts upset you too much, you can simply add
them to your kill file---that way you don't have to be distracted by
any arguments or positions you find distasteful.    I generally avoid
kill files  because it is sometimes worthwhile to step into a thread
and point out that a position is NOT representative of the feelings
and experiences of all the people reading the newsgroup.

Mark Borgerson



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