From: "Geo." 

I'm referring to the barrage of those help bubbles that keep popping up
from the bottom of the screen and all the other questions the damn thing
asks when you first login and start clicking around.

As for my preferences, really? Gee you sure seem to have come around to
respect some of my security preferences since they have become the
standard. Firewall on by default post SP2, imagine that..

Geo.

"Rich"  wrote in message news:45a92272{at}w3.nls.net...
   I have no idea what you are talking about.  Only one thing opens
automatically on first logon to a clean install of Vista and that is the
Welcome Center to which I was referring.  To what exactly are you referring
or are you just making stuff up?

   You have what you want.  Your whining, and something you have repeated
over the years, is that you want the product defaults to be your personal
preferences claiming that what you prefer for yourself is what everyone
should prefer.  It's as bogus a suggestion now as it has always been.

Rich


  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45a91a3d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45a87177$1{at}w3.nls.net...

  >>   You are confusing setup and first logon.

  You know, for a first time user I can see where all the text and windows
  that vista pops up could be helpful. I'm not so far gone that I don't
  remember my very first time I used a computer, it was daunting and
certainly
  all the explanations and offerings would help.

  But for someone who has been using windows since.. well since before
program
  manager and file manager had icons (my first windows was text based GUI)
  it's like being in a car with a kid who keeps saying "are we there yet"
with
  every popup. A simple folder on the desktop with shortcuts to all the new
  stuff would have been more than sufficient to explore the system.

  Windows really does need an install option that offers the choice
  "newbie/experienced/expert" so when it installs it can get turn off the
  newbie crap and wizards, enable classic everything, etc. for the rest of
us.
  I mean really.. years ago when we moved from NT/W89/me to W2K there were
how
  many windows users in the world? Today these people are windows users with
  7 YEARS experience, they don't need to be treated this way.

  When is Microsoft going to recognize it's ignored the experienced users
and
  provide a version for us? I want raw sockets back, I want file extensions
  viewable by default, I want classic control panel, I want admin tools
  enabled by default, I want to hit network properties and see "shared
files"
  instead of "show me all the files and folders I am sharing" I don't want
  "diagnose and repair" I want "diagnose" and
"repair" so that I don't have
to
  worry about the system modifying my settings simply because I want to
  troubleshoot something.

  The popup that warns me that nero smart start is incompatible with vista
  needs to give me more information, what is incompatible since disabling
that
  stupid service that warns me seems to let nero smart start run just fine.
If
  you are going to include DRM, then dammit have it tell me that it's the
DRM
  that is stopping me from viewing HD video instead of making it look like a
  bug. I don't need to waste time trying to fix what MS breaks on purpose.
  Vista Ultimate has no network sniffer, why not include such a basic
  diagnostic tool in the ultimate version?

  Geo.

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