In article ,
 knoxy  wrote:

> In article  {at}news.central.cox.net>, mark_sobolewski{at}yahoo.com
> says...
> > In article ,
> >  knoxy  wrote:
> >
> > > In article  > > {at}news.central.cox.net>, mark_sobolewski{at}yahoo.com
> > > says...
> > > > In article
,
> > > >  knoxy  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article ,
> > > > > Society{at}feminism.is.invalid says...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "lukne"
 barked in message
> > > > > >
news:1106789965.020959.128810{at}z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [...] But do you really think it's right
to for the
> > > > > > > man to force a woman to carry a child to term
> > > > > > > and then raise him/her?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're worshipping an idol of your own creation
> > > > > > lukne: the strawbi*ch.  Tsk, tsk.  Andre hasn't
> > > > > > advocated that the man "force" the woman to
> > > > > > do anything, liar lukne; rather he's pointing out
> > > > > > that it's the woman who expects to force her
> > > > > > sex partners to finance her baby-lust.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The baby grows in the woman's body making it
> > > > > > > more her decision.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, that makes killing the unborn "her
decision"
> > > > > > and her guilt, too.  How about you just come
> > > > > > straight out and admit that you are advocating
> > > > > > a double standard of giving privileges to the
> > > > > > woman and obligations of her making to the man.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know control freaks like you Andre,
> > > > > > > don't like that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There you go lying again, lukne.  Despite your
> > > > > > desire to pretend otherwise, the
"control freaks"
> > > > > > are you and those like you who insist on using
> > > > > > the irresponsibility of women as an excuse for
> > > > > > imposing burdens on those women's sex partners.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Isn't the womans sex partner just as irresponsible as
> > > > > she is? You do know that a woman still need a mans sperm
> > > > > to get pregnant?
> > > >
> > > > Pregnancy != a child (unless you argue that abortion
> > > > is murder.)
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > Mark Sobolewski
> > > >
> > > Are you trying to say that a pregnancy can happen
> > > without sperm? I didn't think so, so what you're saying
> > > has nothing to do with what we're discussing.
> >
> > Here's what you said this morning in another post:
> >
> > "If you know that sperm+egg=baby and don't want that to
> > happen, don't have sex or at least use a condom."
> >
> > So are you pro-life?  I want to know which direction
> > we may continue: pro-lifer applying her reasoning to the
> > situation or hypocrite.
> >
> > regards,
> > Mark Sobolewski
> >
> You know damn well that we were discussing a mans
> responsibilty over his own sperm. That has nothing to do
> with pro-life.

You were also being moralistic and shot yourself in the foot.
Good going.

After you get done explaining away "sperm+egg=baby", you
can help us discuss the responsibility of women to
gestate children she knows can be taken care of
without state intervention.

regards,
Mark Sobolewski


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