To: trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com
From: Garry Stahl 
Reply-To: trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com

Joseph Manno wrote:

>JM - No, they *really* don't---not in depth, at any rate. The proof of that
>is in my own work: According to *numerous* intelligent readers, including
>many of my fellow authors here, my Rome is *eminently* viable, vital and
>entertaining,
>

As any theater backdrop.


>Your analysis, in my opinion, would be justified if the Rome of Star Trek
>had been intended as some sort of carefully crafted alternate history, a la
>Harry Turtledove. It wasn't. Thus, I have to say your points, while entirely
reasonable, qualify under the "Man who Hates Illusionists Because He Knows
'It's a Trick'" school of criticism.
>
>

Try I work out the social details because I find stories in them.  Why as I
mentioned does Magna Roma have slavery?  Based in the (scanty) evidence of
"Bread and Circuses" prominent people can become slaves for doing
social unacceptable things, like following the wrong religion.
 NOT the case in ancient Rome.  It could get you dead, but not enslaved.

Why does Magna Roma have slavery?  What stories are hidden in the cracks of
that bit of social flotsam?

OK a quick brief.  500 years ago Magna Roma reached the same state of
industrialization and civil instability as the US of 1860.  Large sections
of the Empire were industrialized and had few if any slaves.
 Other areas where not and had many.  War broke out over this issue.  In
the case of Rome the pro slavery faction won.

However they are faced with the question of how to prop up  a crumbling
institution they are in favor of, but technology is making increasingly
irrelevant.  The solution is to turn the criminal element into slaves, and
the slaves into a permanent criminal element.  Well they are slaves because
they deserve to be.

Now that is just a rough.  But it defines the place of slaves in an
industrial society and defines the public attitude toward slaves, by simply
explaining why there are slaves.


A better question would be to ask why a Rome at all?  Rome was a self
eviscerating society.  Civil wars were as common as the games, and as
bloody.  What stabilized Roman society to last 2000 years?

--
Garry   AKA   -Phoenix-   Rising Above the Flames

Star Trek le mort.  Viva la Star Trek admiraetur.

Olde Phoenix Inn  http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com




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