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to: Rich
from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2007-01-21 23:54:36
subject: Re: Content protection

From: "Rich Gauszka" 

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It's a bit curious that Microsoft released their Xbox 360 HD DVD player =
with only 1080P support via their optional VGA cable ( I own both along =
with the hd copy of Kong that came with the player)=20


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45b43945$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     I don't think the limited playback DVDs failed for the reason you =
suggest.  They were priced to compete with rentals not purchases.

     Copy protection like macrovision survived the market just fine.  I =
expect the same for HD content with one exception.  There are early =
adopters that have HD displays or other components that support = component
or DVI w/o HDCP.  This wasn't an issue with macrovision or at = least not
one I remember.

  Rich

    "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:45b41c1e{at}w3.nls.net...
    The problem is the industry is placing restrictions on content that =
I paid for. The prattle about piracy is just a Trojan horse to restrict = a
users rights to digital media and I suspect in a decade we'll see =
retention and layback limits will be the norm. The industry has tried it =
before with limited playback DVDs that no one wanted and which were a =
colossal flop. Now they are attempting that scheme again - ( hopefully =
with similar results  )




    "Rich"  wrote in message news:45b41680$1{at}w3.nls.net...
         I have no doubt the thinking is the same or similar to =
macrovision for analog output, don't let it be trivial to make perfect =
copies.  Only it is more serious for digital output from which you could =
possibly make a perfect copy.

         It's all the content providers.  Folks responsible for the =
players or platforms have no vested interest in having any content = protected.

      Rich
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It's a bit curious that Microsoft =
released their=20
Xbox 360 HD DVD player with only 1080P support via their optional VGA = cable ( I=20
own both along with the hd copy of Kong that came with the player) =

 
 
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:45b43945$1{at}w3.nls.net... I don't think the = limited playback=20 DVDs failed for the reason you suggest. They were priced to = compete with=20 rentals not purchases. Copy protection like = macrovision=20 survived the market just fine. I expect the same for HD content = with one=20 exception. There are early adopters that have HD displays or = other=20 components that support component or DVI w/o HDCP. This = wasn't an=20 issue with macrovision or at least not one I remember. Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.commailto:gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com A>>=20 wrote in message news:45b41c1e{at}w3.nls.net... The problem is the industry is = placing=20 restrictions on content that I paid for. The prattle about piracy is = just a=20 Trojan horse to restrict a users rights to digital media and I = suspect in a=20 decade we'll see retention and layback limits will be the norm. The = industry=20 has tried it before with limited playback DVDs that no one wanted = and which=20 were a colossal flop. Now they are attempting that scheme again -=20 ( hopefully with similar results ) "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:45b41680$1{at}w3.nls.net...
I have no doubt the = thinking is=20 the same or similar to macrovision for analog output, don't let it = be=20 trivial to make perfect copies. Only it is more serious for = digital=20 output from which you could possibly make a perfect = copy. It's all the content = providers. Folks responsible for the players or platforms = have no=20 vested interest in having any content protected. Rich<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C73DB7.815D3FB0-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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