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to: Ad
from: Rich
date: 2007-01-21 23:23:38
subject: Re: Content protection

From: "Rich" 

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   Good for you.  Yet in the U.S. the devices do have region coding and =
millions of them are selling.  Hasn't seemed to slow much down.  And = your
devices still have CSS so they are clearly not sitting on the = outside at
all.

Rich

  "Ad"  wrote in message =
news:45b467a9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Rich wrote:
  >    Nonsense.  Region coding, encryption (e.g. CSS), expiring content =

  > (e.g. DivX) are examples that existed without pre-existing support =
from=20
  > software vendors.  These and the other forms of restrictions all =
exist=20
  > because the content providers require it.  Microsoft, Apple, real as =

  > well as CE vendors (e.g. Pioneer, Creative, Apple) support it only=20
  > because it is required to even play the game.  Without it you can =
only=20
  > sit on the outside and watch.
  > =20

  No region coding restrictions on my DVD player. Consumers here simply=20
  wouldn't buy the boxes with region coding built in & thus =
manufacturers=20
  dropped it.

  NB they dropped it & yet they're not sitting on the outside & =
watching.

  Adam
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   Good for
you.  Yet in =
the U.S.=20
the devices do have region coding and millions of them are =
selling.  Hasn't=20
seemed to slow much down.  And your devices still have CSS so they = are=20
clearly not sitting on the outside at all.
 
Rich
 

  "Ad" <Dobbin{at}theStablesC=">mailto:Dobbin{at}theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">Dobbin{at}theStablesC=
loseToTheAirport.com>=20
  wrote in message news:45b467a9$1{at}w3.nls.net...Rich=20
  wrote:>   
Nonsense.  Region coding, =
encryption=20
  (e.g. CSS), expiring content > (e.g. DivX) are examples that =
existed=20
  without pre-existing support from > software vendors.  =
These and=20
  the other forms of restrictions all exist > because the content =

  providers require it.  Microsoft, Apple, real as
> well as =
CE=20
  vendors (e.g. Pioneer, Creative, Apple) support it only > =
because it is=20
  required to even play the game.  Without it you can only
> =
sit on=20
  the outside and watch.>  No
region coding =
restrictions on=20
  my DVD player. Consumers here simply wouldn't buy the boxes with =
region=20
  coding built in & thus manufacturers dropped
it.NB =
they=20
  dropped it & yet they're not sitting on the outside &=20
  watching.Adam

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