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   You interpret this differently than I.  My interpretation is that =
they are gauging demand for HDMI output from the Xbox 360.  The =
implication I read is that component was supported because it is more =
compatible with existing HDTVs.  HDCP is not mentioned at all so I can't =
see how anyone can make a valid inference on that.=20

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:45b45994$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Yes it is 1080p over vga and component. The point I was attempting ( =
not so=20
  clearly though ) was that the Microsoft gaming group appears leery of=20
  HDMI/HDCP

  http://gear.ign.com/articles/735/735860p1.html

  To try to get to the bottom of this situation, IGN contacted Microsoft =
and=20
  asked a few tough questions. Plenty of questions remain -- we're =
waiting to=20
  hear even more from the company -- but here's what we have so far.

  IGN: Will games begin to be developed with 1080p as the native =
resolution,=20
  or is the 360's new 1080p support an advance in the console's internal =

  scaling abilities?

  Microsoft: If developed, the Xbox 360 will support playback of native =
1080p=20
  games and all existing Xbox 360 titles can be up-scaled to 1080p.

  IGN : Does the Xbox 360 have the internal bandwidth between CPUs and=20
  graphics processors necessary to move a full 1080p image? There's a =
big=20
  difference between 1080i and the 3GB/s of 1080p.

  Microsoft: *updated* Yes, the Xbox 360 has the necessary internal =
bandwidth=20
  between CPUs and graphics processors to move a full 1080p image.

  IGN: There are very few 1080p native HDTVs that accept 1080p via =
Component=20
  connections. The signal will only come in as 1080i and be =
de-interlaced back=20
  to 1080p. How is the 360's new 1080p support, in practical =
application,=20
  going to be any different than what was already possible?

  Microsoft: We can offer 1080p support through both the VGA connection =
and=20
  the Component connection.

  IGN: Could Microsoft theoretically release an HDMI dongle-cable like =
the=20
  various other cables already available for the console? Is the current =
360=20
  hardware able to output a digital signal, or is it restricted to =
analog?

  Microsoft: Xbox 360 supports HD Component video output, which is =
compatible=20
  with nearly every HD ready TV on the market today. That's not yet true =
for=20
  HDMI. We are watching the market closely and will continue to evaluate =
our=20
  solution, in the face of consumer demand.



  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45b45585{at}w3.nls.net...
     I don't have an HD DVD so I can't answer.  Are you sure?  The first =
two=20
  items of=20
  =
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2006/1030-novemberupdate-complet=
elist.htm=20
  are below, emphasis mine.

    New Features

      a.. HD 1080p video mode support over VGA and component cables.
      b.. Xbox 360T HD DVD Player support.

  Rich

    "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message=20
  news:45b4469f{at}w3.nls.net...
    It's a bit curious that Microsoft released their Xbox 360 HD DVD =
player=20
  with only 1080P support via their optional VGA cable ( I own both =
along with=20
  the hd copy of Kong that came with the player)


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   You
interpret this =
differently than=20
I.  My interpretation is that they are gauging demand for HDMI =
output from=20
the Xbox 360.  The implication I read is that component was = supported=20
because it is more compatible with existing HDTVs.  HDCP is not =
mentioned=20
at all so I can't see how anyone can make a valid inference on=20
that. 
 
Rich
 

  "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
wrote =
in message=20
  news:45b45994$1{at}w3.nls.net...Yes=20
  it is 1080p over vga and component. The point I was attempting ( not =
so=20
  clearly though ) was that the Microsoft gaming group appears leery =
of=20
  HDMI/HDCPhttp://gear.ign.c" target="new">http://gear.ign.c=">http://gear.ign.com/articles/735/735860p1.html">http://gear.ign.c=
om/articles/735/735860p1.htmlTo=20
  try to get to the bottom of this situation, IGN contacted Microsoft =
and=20
  asked a few tough questions. Plenty of questions remain -- we're =
waiting=20
  to hear even more from the company -- but here's what we have so=20
  far.IGN: Will games begin to be developed with 1080p as the =
native=20
  resolution, or is the 360's new 1080p support an advance in the =
console's=20
  internal scaling abilities?Microsoft: If
developed, the =
Xbox 360=20
  will support playback of native 1080p games and all existing Xbox =
360=20
  titles can be up-scaled to 1080p.IGN : Does the Xbox 360 have =
the=20
  internal bandwidth between CPUs and graphics processors necessary =
to move=20
  a full 1080p image? There's a big difference between 1080i and the =
3GB/s=20
  of 1080p.Microsoft: *updated* Yes, the Xbox 360 has the =
necessary=20
  internal bandwidth between CPUs and graphics processors to move a =
full=20
  1080p image.IGN: There are very few 1080p native HDTVs that =
accept=20
  1080p via Component connections. The signal will only come in as =
1080i and=20
  be de-interlaced back to 1080p. How is the 360's new 1080p =
support, in=20
  practical application, going to be any different than what was =
already=20
  possible?Microsoft: We can offer 1080p support through both =
the VGA=20
  connection and the Component connection.IGN: Could =
Microsoft=20
  theoretically release an HDMI dongle-cable like the various other =
cables=20
  already available for the console? Is the current 360 hardware =
able to=20
  output a digital signal, or is it restricted to =
analog?Microsoft: Xbox=20
  360 supports HD Component video output, which is compatible with =
nearly=20
  every HD ready TV on the market today. That's not yet true for =
HDMI. We=20
  are watching the market closely and will continue to evaluate our=20
  solution, in the face of consumer
demand."Rich" =
<{at}>=20
  wrote in message news:45b45585{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; =20
  I don't have an HD DVD so I can't answer.  Are you sure?  =
The first=20
  two items of http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2006/1030-novemberupdate=
-completelist.htm">http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2006/1030-nov=
emberupdate-completelist.htm=20
  are below, emphasis mine.  New=20
  Features    a.. HD 1080p
video mode support =
over VGA=20
  and component cables.    b.. Xbox
360T HD DVD =
Player=20
  support.Rich  "Rich
Gauszka" <gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.commailto:gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com
A>>=20
  wrote in message news:45b4469f{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; It's=20
  a bit curious that Microsoft released their Xbox 360 HD DVD player =
with=20
  only 1080P support via their optional VGA cable ( I own both along =
with=20
  the hd copy of Kong that came with the=20
player)

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