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   The implementation in Windows is a framework with a set of =
capabilities necessary to meet the requirements of not just HD-DVD but =
other content as well.  It is not a hard coded implementation of any =
specific requirements.  This is necessary to allow Windows to be  a =
platform for playback of as much content as possible.

   Your example of expiration is something that doesn't apply to HD-DVD, =
or at least I don't think so but I could be wrong.  I'm not at all =
familiar with what AACS allows.  It is something that applies to =
distributable audio and video content.  If you see it used, you should =
contact the content provider and/or licensor to ask why.  FWIW, an =
expiration date has been supported since version 1.0 or WMDRM released = in
1999.

Rich
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  "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:45b3c20f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  If the content protection in vista goes above and beyond that found on =
HDDVD=20
  players then can you really claim it was just to support protections=20
  mandated by the content? For example if vista allows downloading =
content=20
  that expires after a week, you can't possibly be serious that vista =
isn't=20
  directly responsible for extending the capabilities of HD-DVD content=20
  protection.

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45b2f6e3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     The extra CPU is to support the protections mandated by the =
content.  The=20
  additional functionality is the ability to render that content at all. =
 If=20
  you don't want to play protected content such as HD-DVD or bluray then =
you=20
  should care that increased CPU is required to do so.  If you do want =
to play=20
  such content then you should be pleased that it is possible.

  Rich

    "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message=20
  news:45b2ec71$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    The Vista team is hallucinating equating additional CPU cycles used =
for=20
  drm
    with additional functionality for consumers.

    from the link
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Will Windows Vista content protection features increase CPU resource
    consumption?

    Yes.  However, the use of additional CPU cycles is inevitable, as =
the PC
    provides consumers with additional functionality.
    -------------------------------------------------------------

    "John Beamish"  wrote in message
    news:op.tmhkksu1m6tn4t{at}dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com...
    > In this vein ... there was the story that Vista imposed DRM in =
such a
    > manner that if (for example) you were listening to a CD that was =
subject
    > to DRM and you were a technician viewing (according to this =
example) a
    > digital x-ray that the x-ray would be degraded to the same extent =
that=20
  DRM
    > required the CD to be degraded.
    >
    > The Windows Vista team replied here:
    >=20
  =
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/windows=
-vista-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx

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   The
implementation in =
Windows is a=20
framework with a set of capabilities necessary to meet the requirements = of not=20
just HD-DVD but other content as well.  It is not a hard coded =

implementation of any specific requirements.  This is =
necessary to=20
allow Windows to be  a platform for playback of as much content
as=20 possible.
 
   Your
example of expiration =
is=20
something that doesn't apply to HD-DVD, or at least I don't think so but = I could=20
be wrong.  I'm not at all familiar with what AACS
allows.  It = is=20
something that applies to distributable audio and video =
content.  If=20
you see it used, you should contact the content provider
= and/or=20
licensor to ask why.  FWIW, an expiration date has been supported = since=20
version 1.0 or WMDRM released in 1999.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:45b3c20f$1{at}w3.nls.net...If=20
  the content protection in vista goes above and beyond that found on =
HDDVD=20
  players then can you really claim it was just to support =
protections=20
  mandated by the content? For example if vista allows downloading =
content=20
  that expires after a week, you can't possibly be serious that =
vista isn't=20
  directly responsible for extending the capabilities of HD-DVD =
content=20
 
protection.Geo."Rich"
<{at}> wrote in message =
news:45b2f6e3$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
  =20
  The extra CPU is to support the protections mandated by the =
content.  The=20
  additional functionality is the ability to render that content at=20
  all.  If you don't want to play protected content such as =
HD-DVD or=20
  bluray then you should care that increased CPU is required to do =
so. =20
  If you do want to play such content then you should be pleased =
that it is=20
  possible.Rich 
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.commailto:gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com
A>>=20
  wrote in message news:45b2ec71$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
 =20
  The Vista team is hallucinating equating additional CPU cycles used =
for=20
  drm  with additional functionality for =
consumers. =20
  from the link =20
  ------------------------------------------------------------  =
Will=20
  Windows Vista content protection features increase CPU =
resource =20
  consumption?  Yes.  However, the
use of additional =
CPU=20
  cycles is inevitable, as the PC  provides consumers with =
additional=20
  functionality. =20
  =
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p;=20
  "John Beamish" <JLBeamish{at}rogers.com>">mailto:JLBeamish{at}rogers.com">JLBeamish{at}rogers.com>
=
wrote in=20
  message  news:op.tmhkksu1m6tn4t{at}dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com..=
. =20
  > In this vein ... there was the story that Vista imposed DRM in =
such=20
  a  > manner that if (for example) you were
listening to a =
CD that=20
  was subject  > to DRM and you were a technician viewing =
(according=20
  to this example) a  > digital x-ray that the
x-ray would =
be=20
  degraded to the same extent that DRM 
> required the =
CD to be=20
  degraded.  >  > The
Windows Vista team replied =

  here:  > http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20=
/windows-vista-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx">http=
://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/windows-vis=
ta-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx

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