From: "Geo." 

It's not required to play the game. If there is no support from software
makers for DRM then the content industry has to accept that in order to
reap the profits from that market. And as everyone knows, some profits are
better than NO profits..

Geo.

"Rich"  wrote in message news:45b40c49{at}w3.nls.net...
   Nonsense.  Region coding, encryption (e.g. CSS), expiring content (e.g.
DivX) are examples that existed without pre-existing support from software
vendors.  These and the other forms of restrictions all exist because the
content providers require it.  Microsoft, Apple, real as well as CE vendors
(e.g. Pioneer, Creative, Apple) support it only because it is required to
even play the game.  Without it you can only sit on the outside and watch.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45b407ba{at}w3.nls.net...
  My point is it is the vendors who enable features like content expiration
  who are responsible, not the people who requested it, but the people like
  Microsoft who make it real.

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45b405a9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     The implementation in Windows is a framework with a set of capabilities
  necessary to meet the requirements of not just HD-DVD but other content as
  well.  It is not a hard coded implementation of any specific requirements.
  This is necessary to allow Windows to be  a platform for playback of as
much
  content as possible.

     Your example of expiration is something that doesn't apply to HD-DVD,
or
  at least I don't think so but I could be wrong.  I'm not at all familiar
  with what AACS allows.  It is something that applies to distributable
audio
  and video content.  If you see it used, you should contact the content
  provider and/or licensor to ask why.  FWIW, an expiration date has been
  supported since version 1.0 or WMDRM released in 1999.

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45b3c20f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    If the content protection in vista goes above and beyond that found on
  HDDVD
    players then can you really claim it was just to support protections
    mandated by the content? For example if vista allows downloading content
    that expires after a week, you can't possibly be serious that vista
isn't
    directly responsible for extending the capabilities of HD-DVD content
    protection.

    Geo.

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:45b2f6e3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       The extra CPU is to support the protections mandated by the content.
  The
    additional functionality is the ability to render that content at all.
If
    you don't want to play protected content such as HD-DVD or bluray then
you
    should care that increased CPU is required to do so.  If you do want to
  play
    such content then you should be pleased that it is possible.

    Rich

      "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
    news:45b2ec71$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      The Vista team is hallucinating equating additional CPU cycles used
for
    drm
      with additional functionality for consumers.

      from the link
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      Will Windows Vista content protection features increase CPU resource
      consumption?

      Yes.  However, the use of additional CPU cycles is inevitable, as the
PC
      provides consumers with additional functionality.
      -------------------------------------------------------------

      "John Beamish"  wrote in message
      news:op.tmhkksu1m6tn4t{at}dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com...
      > In this vein ... there was the story that Vista imposed DRM in such
a
      > manner that if (for example) you were listening to a CD that was
  subject
      > to DRM and you were a technician viewing (according to this example)
a
      > digital x-ray that the x-ray would be degraded to the same extent
that
    DRM
      > required the CD to be degraded.
      >
      > The Windows Vista team replied here:
      >
    http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/windows-v
ista-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx

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