From: "Rich" 

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   My point is that I am an expert user.  I don't think even you would =
argue otherwise.  Yet, despite that I use almost all defaults.  I would =
describe this as appropriate for a typical user not a newbie, ordinary =
user, or other classification, simply typical user.

   Selecting more appropriate views for folders with pictures is a good =
thing.  I was very happy when this was introduced in Windows XP as it =
shows me more what I want to see.  As for displaying it the same as last =
time, this is the case unless you have chosen the option to not save = view
settings for each folder.

   Everyone gets informative error messages.  Do you have specific =
examples where you believe a "newbie" does not?  As for experts
not = liking the system to fix itself, as an expert I have to disagree.  I
= want anything that can be fixed automatically to be fixed automatically.
=
 I want this logged and in some cases I might want a notification in the =
tray, of the type that you whined earlier that you don't like.  If your =
personal preferences differ you can configure things your way on the =
systems you control.  I can almost guarantee that what you think I want =
as an expert is not what I want.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:45a9b17d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Well since you are perfectly happy with the newbie settings that it =
uses=20
  now, I would imagine one of the three choices would work for you.

  As for the NTLM logic, I wasn't talking about that specifically, I'm=20
  thinking more along the look and feel lines, wizards, admin tools, =
controls,=20
  folder defaults, automatic things like changing the folder view when =
it's=20
  pictures instead of honoring the system default for folders, etc. If I =
want=20
  to see thumbnails, I know how to do that, just display the folder the =
way I=20
  had it last time I viewed it and I'll be happy.

  For example, newbies like it when the system fixes itself, experts =
hate it=20
  when the system changes their settings but they like informative error =

  messages. That is the sort of thing I would like to see different =
based on=20
  the selection I mentioned. Newbies get wizards, experts get =
diagnostics,=20
  users get both.

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45a9ab13{at}w3.nls.net...
     The problem especially with the "expert" option you suggest is that =

  experts differ.  I would consider myself an expert user and your =
preferences=20
  are not my preferences.

     I disagree there is any meaningful difference between what you call =

  "newbies" and what you call "average users".  I
especially do not =
believe=20
  you can make an intelligent distinction.

    Even as an expert, I prefer almost all UI settings to remain the =
default=20
  for several reasons.  One is that the defaults are OK for me.  The =
type of=20
  changes I make are to tighten security in ways that you might find=20
  objectionable such as disallowing auth except 128-bit NTLMv2 and =
Kerberos=20
  which prevents access from Windows NT 4.0 and other old versions of =
Windows.=20
  I also disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP which also prevents access from =
Windows=20
  NT 4.0 and other old versions of Windows.  I tighten other security =
settings=20
  and enable settings that force buggy applications to be more likely to =

  crash.  I've enabled these for years.  I wouldn't have recommended =
disabling=20
  Windows NT 4.0 access to your default Windows 2000 user but it was =
fine for=20
  me.  In fact I think all my changes are good for me which is why I =
make them=20
  but I do not have your ego to suggest that my preferences should be =
the=20
  default for others.

  Rich


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   My point
is that I am an =
expert=20
user.  I don't think even you would argue otherwise. 
Yet, = despite=20
that I use almost all defaults.  I would describe this as =
appropriate for a=20
typical user not a newbie, ordinary user, or other classification, = simply=20
typical user.
 
   Selecting
more appropriate =
views for=20
folders with pictures is a good thing.  I was very happy when this = was=20
introduced in Windows XP as it shows me more what I want to see. 
= As for=20
displaying it the same as last time, this is the case unless you have = chosen the=20
option to not save view settings for each folder.
 
   Everyone
gets informative =
error=20
messages.  Do you have specific examples where you believe a =
"newbie" does=20
not?  As for experts not liking the system to fix itself, as an =
expert I=20
have to disagree.  I want anything that can be fixed automatically
= to be=20
fixed automatically.  I want this logged and in some cases I might
= want a=20
notification in the tray, of the type that you whined earlier that you = don't=20
like.  If your personal preferences differ you can configure
things = your=20
way on the systems you control.  I can almost guarantee that what
= you think=20
I want as an expert is not what I want.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:45a9b17d$1{at}w3.nls.net...Well=20
  since you are perfectly happy with the newbie settings that it uses =
now, I=20
  would imagine one of the three choices would work for you.As =
for the=20
  NTLM logic, I wasn't talking about that specifically, I'm thinking =
more=20
  along the look and feel lines, wizards, admin tools, controls, =
folder=20
  defaults, automatic things like changing the folder view when it's=20
  pictures instead of honoring the system default for folders, etc. =
If I=20
  want to see thumbnails, I know how to do that, just display the =
folder the=20
  way I had it last time I viewed it and I'll be
happy.For =
example,=20
  newbies like it when the system fixes itself, experts hate it when =
the=20
  system changes their settings but they like informative error =
messages.=20
  That is the sort of thing I would like to see different based on =
the=20
  selection I mentioned. Newbies get wizards, experts get diagnostics, =
users=20
  get both.Geo."Rich"
<{at}> wrote in message news:45a9ab13{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; =20
  The problem especially with the "expert" option you suggest is that=20
  experts differ.  I would consider myself an expert user and =
your=20
  preferences are not my
preferences.   I disagree =
there=20
  is any meaningful difference between what you call
"newbies" and =
what you=20
  call "average users".  I especially do not believe
you can =
make an=20
  intelligent distinction.  Even as an expert,
I prefer =
almost all=20
  UI settings to remain the default for several reasons.  One =
is that=20
  the defaults are OK for me.  The type of changes I make are =
to=20
  tighten security in ways that you might find objectionable such as =

  disallowing auth except 128-bit NTLMv2 and Kerberos which prevents =
access=20
  from Windows NT 4.0 and other old versions of Windows. I also =
disable=20
  NetBIOS over TCP/IP which also prevents access from Windows NT 4.0 =
and=20
  other old versions of Windows.  I tighten other security settings =
and=20
  enable settings that force buggy applications to be more likely to=20
  crash.  I've enabled these for years.  I
wouldn't have=20
  recommended disabling Windows NT 4.0 access to your default =
Windows 2000=20
  user but it was fine for me.  In fact I think all my changes =
are good=20
  for me which is why I make them but I do not have your ego to =
suggest that=20
  my preferences should be the default for=20
others.Rich

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