From: "Rich" 

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   You can upload all your preferences.  Export HKEY_CURRENT_USER and =
copy %USERPROFILE%.  I don't think this is what you want.  You want to =
share only a few of your preferences which you can do in a similar = manner
but requires you to put some thought into what you want to share. =
 What I have is an INI file that is imported with REGINI.  I actually =
have two, one with machine preferences and one with user preferences.  I =
could use one file but it works better for me with two.

   I wasn't asking for an example of an error message which you find =
lacking.  There will always be opinions on including two much or too =
little.  Your example happens to be a bad one since the message is very =
informative.  It sucks because the information it provides is useful for =
an expert only which is the opposite of the point I believe you are =
trying to make.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45aa8575{at}w3.nls.net...
  Ok fine so there is no convincing you but I think you are just hung-up =
on=20
  the choice names I picked. How about this, once a user has configured =
all=20
  these things how they like them, allow them to save all these =
preferences=20
  folders/search/menus/gadgets/power/extensions/wallpaper/ie=20
  zones/windowsupdate/etc etc to a preference file that can easily be =
uploaded=20
  to a website much like trillian skins. Make it a very powerful feature =
that=20
  saves all the stuff that users consider preference settings without =
having=20
  to be a programmer. Expand on the themes idea.

  Error message that is not informative, unplug your network cable and =
hit=20
  send/receive in windows mail.

  The host 'mail.getinfo.org' could not be found. Please verify that you =
have=20
  entered the server name correctly.
   Account: 'Abuse', Server: 'mail.getinfo.org', Protocol: POP3, Port: =
110,=20
  Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 11001, Error Number: 0x800CCC0D

  I've been using this account for 10 years, the server name is most=20
  definitely entered correctly, you just caused 20,000 users to screw up =
their=20
  email settings because sbc's dsl service went down for 5 minutes or =
because=20
  the users' domain has expired or their dns server is down or any of a=20
  hundred other reasons none of which has to do with the server name =
being=20
  entered correctly. Don't suggest a fix without determining the cause. =
What=20
  does "could not be found" mean? Did dns timeout, did they get =
nxdomain, did=20
  they get a response of 127.0.0.1, what was the error?

  If I do the same thing with IE7, unplug the network and try to go to a =
valid=20
  website, it correctly determines the problem and the solution. Nice. =
Same if=20
  I try to go to a site that doesn't exist like www.nthelp2.com it tells =
them=20
  the domain doesn't exist, nice again.

  Also, Error Number: 0x800CCC0D means nothing=20
  http://www.nthelp.com/50/Outlook_error_codes.htm can't we included the =
real=20
  message in the help files and bring that up instead of the number? Or =
at=20
  least make the number a link to this page on the MS web site? (not =
that that=20
  would help if the network were down)

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45a9b833{at}w3.nls.net...
     My point is that I am an expert user.  I don't think even you would =
argue=20
  otherwise.  Yet, despite that I use almost all defaults.  I would =
describe=20
  this as appropriate for a typical user not a newbie, ordinary user, or =
other=20
  classification, simply typical user.

     Selecting more appropriate views for folders with pictures is a =
good=20
  thing.  I was very happy when this was introduced in Windows XP as it =
shows=20
  me more what I want to see.  As for displaying it the same as last =
time,=20
  this is the case unless you have chosen the option to not save view =
settings=20
  for each folder.

     Everyone gets informative error messages.  Do you have specific =
examples=20
  where you believe a "newbie" does not?  As for experts not liking the =
system=20
  to fix itself, as an expert I have to disagree.  I want anything that =
can be=20
  fixed automatically to be fixed automatically.  I want this logged and =
in=20
  some cases I might want a notification in the tray, of the type that =
you=20
  whined earlier that you don't like.  If your personal preferences =
differ you=20
  can configure things your way on the systems you control.  I can =
almost=20
  guarantee that what you think I want as an expert is not what I want.

  Rich

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   You can
upload all your=20
preferences.  Export HKEY_CURRENT_USER and copy =
%USERPROFILE%.  I=20
don't think this is what you want.  You want to share only a few
of = your=20
preferences which you can do in a similar manner but requires you to put = some=20
thought into what you want to share.  What I have is an INI file =
that is=20
imported with REGINI.  I actually have two, one with machine =
preferences=20
and one with user preferences.  I could use one file but it works
= better=20
for me with two.
 
   I wasn't
asking for an =
example of an=20
error message which you find lacking.  There will always be = opinions on=20
including two much or too little.  Your example happens to be a bad = one=20
since the message is very informative.  It sucks because the =
information it=20
provides is useful for an expert only which is the opposite of the point = I=20
believe you are trying to make.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:45aa8575{at}w3.nls.net...Ok=
 fine=20
  so there is no convincing you but I think you are just hung-up on =
the=20
  choice names I picked. How about this, once a user has configured all=20
  these things how they like them, allow them to save all these =
preferences=20
  folders/search/menus/gadgets/power/extensions/wallpaper/ie=20
  zones/windowsupdate/etc etc to a preference file that can easily =
be=20
  uploaded to a website much like trillian skins. Make it a very =
powerful=20
  feature that saves all the stuff that users consider preference =
settings=20
  without having to be a programmer. Expand on the themes =
idea.Error=20
  message that is not informative, unplug your network cable and hit=20
  send/receive in windows mail.The host
'mail.getinfo.org' =
could not=20
  be found. Please verify that you have entered the server name=20
  correctly. Account: 'Abuse', Server: 'mail.getinfo.org', =
Protocol:=20
  POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 11001, Error =
Number:=20
  0x800CCC0DI've been using this account for 10 years, the =
server name=20
  is most definitely entered correctly, you just caused 20,000 users =
to=20
  screw up their email settings because sbc's dsl service went down =
for 5=20
  minutes or because the users' domain has expired or their dns =
server is=20
  down or any of a hundred other reasons none of which has to do =
with the=20
  server name being entered correctly. Don't suggest a fix without=20
  determining the cause. What does "could not be found"
mean? Did =
dns=20
  timeout, did they get nxdomain, did they get a response of =
127.0.0.1, what=20
  was the error?If I do the same thing with IE7, unplug the =
network and=20
  try to go to a valid website, it correctly determines the problem =
and the=20
  solution. Nice. Same if I try to go to a site that doesn't exist =
like www.nthelp2.com;">http://www.nthelp2.com">www.nthelp2.com; it
tells them =
the domain=20
  doesn't exist, nice again.Also, Error Number:
0x800CCC0D means =
nothing=20
  http://www.nthe" target="new">http://www.nthe=">http://www.nthelp.com/50/Outlook_error_codes.htm">http://www.nthe=
lp.com/50/Outlook_error_codes.htm=20
  can't we included the real message in the help files and bring =
that up=20
  instead of the number? Or at least make the number a link to this =
page on=20
  the MS web site? (not that that would help if the network were=20
  down)Geo."Rich"
<{at}> wrote in message news:45a9b833{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; =20
  My point is that I am an expert user.  I don't think even you =
would argue=20
  otherwise.  Yet, despite that I use almost all =
defaults.  I=20
  would describe this as appropriate for a typical user not a =
newbie,=20
  ordinary user, or other classification, simply typical=20
  user.   Selecting more appropriate
views for folders =
with=20
  pictures is a good thing.  I was very happy when this was =
introduced=20
  in Windows XP as it shows me more what I want to see.  As for =

  displaying it the same as last time, this is the case unless you =
have=20
  chosen the option to not save view settings for each=20
  folder.   Everyone gets informative error =
messages.  Do=20
  you have specific examples where you believe a "newbie" does =
not?  As=20
  for experts not liking the system to fix itself, as an expert I =
have to=20
  disagree.  I want anything that can be fixed automatically to =
be=20
  fixed automatically.  I want this logged and in some cases I =
might=20
  want a notification in the tray, of the type that you whined =
earlier that=20
  you don't like.  If your personal preferences differ you can=20
  configure things your way on the systems you control.  I can =
almost=20
  guarantee that what you think I want as an expert is not what I=20
 
want.Rich

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