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from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2007-01-27 00:40:06
subject: Re: IBM, Nokia, Sun Microsystems, Adobe, Oracle and Red Hat say Vista

From: "Rich Gauszka" 

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I just saw a Bill Gates Interview ( link below ) from Sept which seems = to
imply that Windows Presentation Foundation for Mac will be a subset = of
what runs under Vista. Am I in error in that assumption?  I've seen = other
comments ( expecially from Flash supporters ) that claim something =
similar.



http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/PermaLink.aspx?guid=3Dbb51e92d-ed84-4f7=
8-ab48-7b69d4bce047
BG: The Mac is one of the targets that we explicitly talked about, so =
yes. Now it's not 100 percent of XAML, we need to be clear on that. But =
the portion of XAML we've picked here will be everywhere. Absolutely =
everywhere. And it has to be. You've got to have, for at least reading, =
and even some level of animation, you've got to have pervasiveness. And =
will there be multiple things that fit into that niche? Probably. = Because
it's not that hard to carry multiple...you as a user don't even = know when
you're seeing something that's WPF/E versus Flash versus = whatever. It
just works.


I've pasted a portion of your Microsoft XAML Mac link below.  =20

---------
"WPF/E" (codename) is a browser enhancement module that enables
browsers = to render rich content in addition to HTML. 'WPF/E" is
compatible with = both the Safari browser and Firefox 1.5.0.8 on MacOSX
10.4.8. The Dec = 2006 CTP will expire on February 18, 2007 at which point
when a web page = that uses it is rendered, it will prompt the user to
update to the = latest version. "WPF/E" (codename) will
periodically ping Microsoft.com = to verify its integrity (at which point
the only information that will = be communicated will be your IP address
and the module version).

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45badd95$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     Obviously bogus claims like this don't help their clearly biased =
propaganda win over anyone that isn't already biased as they are.  Maybe =
these guys should have fact checked their propaganda to exclude all but =
their subjective claims that they could always spin as needed when =
questioned.

     FWIW, if you want to view XAML on the Macintosh, visit =
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=3D1665A00C-F7BB-=
459A-9DA2-F1DB6297277F&displaylang=3Den then http://www.msdn.com/wpfe =
for samples. =20

  Rich

    "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:45bab1c8$1{at}w3.nls.net...



    It said Microsoft's XAML markup language was "positioned to replace =
HTML",=20
    the industry standard for publishing documents on the Internet. XAML =
would=20
    be dependent on Windows, and discriminatory against systems such as =
Linux,=20
    the group said.

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I just saw a Bill Gates Interview ( =
link below )=20
from Sept which seems to imply that Windows Presentation Foundation for=20
Mac will be a subset of what runs under Vista. Am I in error =
in that=20
assumption?  I've seen other comments ( expecially from Flash =
supporters )=20
that claim something similar.
 
 
 
http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/PermaLink.aspx?guid=3Dbb51e92d-=
ed84-4f78-ab48-7b69d4bce047">http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/PermaLink.=
aspx?guid=3Dbb51e92d-ed84-4f78-ab48-7b69d4bce047
BG: The Mac is one of the targets that we =
explicitly=20
talked about, so yes. Now it's not 100 percent of XAML, we need to be = clear on=20
that. But the portion of XAML we've picked here will be everywhere. = Absolutely=20
everywhere. And it has to be. You've got to have, for at least reading, = and even=20
some level of animation, you've got to have pervasiveness. And will = there be=20
multiple things that fit into that niche? Probably. Because it's not = that hard=20
to carry multiple...you as a user don't even know when you're seeing = something=20
that's WPF/E versus Flash
versus = whatever. It just=20
works.
 
 
I've pasted a portion of your
Microsoft =
XAML Mac=20
link below.   
 
---------

=93WPF/E=94 =
(codename) is a=20
browser enhancement module that enables browsers to render rich content = in=20
addition to HTML. =91WPF/E=94 is compatible with both the Safari browser =
and Firefox=20
1.5.0.8 on MacOSX 10.4.8. The Dec 2006 CTP will expire on February 18, = 2007 at=20
which point when a web page that uses it is rendered, it will prompt the = user to=20
update to the latest version. =93WPF/E=94 (codename) will periodically = ping=20
Microsoft.com to verify its integrity (at which point the only = information that=20
will be communicated will be your IP address and the module=20
version).
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:45badd95$1{at}w3.nls.net... Obviously bogus claims = like this=20 don't help their clearly biased propaganda win over anyone that isn't = already=20 biased as they are. Maybe these guys should have fact checked = their=20 propaganda to exclude all but their subjective claims that they could = always=20 spin as needed when questioned. FWIW, if you want to = view XAML on=20 the Macintosh, visit http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=3D1665A0= 0C-F7BB-459A-9DA2-F1DB6297277F&displaylang=3Den">http://www.microsoft= .com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=3D1665A00C-F7BB-459A-9DA2-F1DB629727= 7F&displaylang=3Den then=20 http://www.msdn.com/wpfe for=20" target="new">http://www.msdn.com/wpfe">http://www.msdn.com/wpfe">http://www.msdn.com/wpfe for=20 samples. Rich "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.commailto:gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com A>>=20 wrote in message news:45bab1c8$1{at}w3.nls.net...It=20 said Microsoft's XAML markup language was "positioned to replace = HTML",=20 the industry standard for publishing documents on the Internet. = XAML=20 would be dependent on Windows, and discriminatory against = systems such=20 as Linux, the group = said. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C741AB.B0B12180-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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